USAC Rule Update 1/24

TQ97 · 1/26/25, 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brown11b

If you can save weight someplace on the car and shift it to a place more advantageous teams are going to do it.

I’m well aware, especially reducing rotating weight and putting static weight where you want it. It’s just my frustration with sanctioning bodies doing nothing to control costs.

Blitzman · 1/26/25, 6:27 PM

Seen multiple cars at Chili Bowl with an extra shock on RR like few of the KKM cars.

Pitdad · 1/26/25, 6:51 PM

What I think I understood the 5th shock would do was improve their ability to slam into the ledge that builds up at the Chili Bowl. I assume it works in conjunction with the Jacob’s Ladder and lets them bite into the ledge more effectively. The people commenting on it say micro guys (Dicely, in particular) have run them on micros for some time.

If you’re not slamming a tall cushion, I don’t think they help.

badcoupe · 1/26/25, 10:40 PM

I could understand that helping on a big cushion. The shock is at a pretty severe angle, mounted center top of birdcage and just aft of the ladder mount. I thought it was interesting that axsom made the comment when asked about the setup that he told Keith they’d never won chili bowl with a 5th shock so I wanna stick with 4.

The Old Coyote · 1/27/25, 9:27 AM

".....I assume it works in conjunction with the Jacob’s Ladder....."
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A picture is worth a thousand words.

Dale · 1/27/25, 9:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TQ97

KKM started using a 2nd shock late last year on the RR and now it’s monkey see monkey do. Here was a chance to nip it in the bud and prevent the additional cost of the 5th shock. And don’t get me started on the irony of lightening the cars over the years, only to now want to bolt weight on.

The Karl Kinser effect.

The Old Coyote · 1/27/25, 1:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale

The Karl Kinser effect.

Same as when Penske added that vertical fin behind the drivers head. Later on Cendric it was added to get some additional sponsor
signage!!

kendirt · 1/27/25, 1:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Old Coyote

A picture is worth a thousand words.

Yeah, if anyone can find a picture of a KKM car with a fifth shock I'd like to see it.

badcoupe · 1/27/25, 2:00 PM

I didn’t take any while I was in Tulsa, I had noticed it on screen during the Sunday practices while I was on my way down there. Standard 7” ars shock, no canister, the regular rr shock was canister equipped. I’ve always been kinda surprised with all the boutique shock companies out there that kkm has stuck with advanced all these years. But why mess with success

Pitdad · 1/27/25, 2:13 PM

FLO did a brief piece on the shock with pictures during Chili Bowl coverage. I’d have to dig deep into the archives to figure out the day and time stamp for the video. Maybe they clipped it themselves.

1/26/25, 6:27 PM	#12
Blitzman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 508	Seen multiple cars at Chili Bowl with an extra shock on RR like few of the KKM cars.

1/26/25, 6:51 PM	#13
Pitdad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 714	What I think I understood the 5th shock would do was improve their ability to slam into the ledge that builds up at the Chili Bowl. I assume it works in conjunction with the Jacob’s Ladder and lets them bite into the ledge more effectively. The people commenting on it say micro guys (Dicely, in particular) have run them on micros for some time. If you’re not slamming a tall cushion, I don’t think they help.

1/27/25, 2:13 PM	#20
Pitdad Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 714	FLO did a brief piece on the shock with pictures during Chili Bowl coverage. I’d have to dig deep into the archives to figure out the day and time stamp for the video. Maybe they clipped it themselves.