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1/11/09, 8:47 PM   #11
Re: Need More Input on Steel Block Series
Speedsme
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Steel blocks, restricted injection, spec 23deg heads or gaskets????
Sounds lilke ASCS/USCS non-wing.
A great idea!!!!!!! There are lots of those engines and parts available.
Then throw in a few wing shows. Market it to tracks that don't run sprints on a regular basis. Wonder how many tracks can't afford a USAC,WOO, ALLSTAR,MASS show?????????????

NO SWAY BARS AND NO WING SLIDERS.
 
1/11/09, 9:04 PM   #12
Re: Need More Input on Steel Block Series
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This may not be a popular post, but I think you are going about this the wrong way. I think that you should have a strong vision of what kind of racing you want to create. Once you have this vision, you then need to hold strong to your beliefs and sell the idea to the racers.

Too many series are ruined by the drivers trying to set the rules. The inmates should not run the prison. It reduces the ******** and the claims of favortism when the promoter has a strong vision of the rules, and is not easily influinced by the drivers about rule changes.

The promoter can do other things to listen to the voice of the racer to make them feel welcomed, but the rule book should be sacred.
 
1/11/09, 11:55 PM   #13
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All you have to do to make it fair for everybody ,is to run 12 psi in the RR tire like usac did in the early 80s' 16" RR wheel sit back and watch what happens when the racetrack goes away. the lil motor will shine brightly: checkeredtake away ALLLLL!!! cockpit adjustables) and thats my .02 cents worth!
thanks, Donnie
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1/12/09, 9:19 AM   #14
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Keep the info coming. I would like to see this series grow so that I can run it in a year or two. I am liking everything that I here so far, except for the wing, dont want one. I would like to hear how they will handle the shocks and tires.
 
1/12/09, 12:08 PM   #15
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Thanks Donnie, I forgot about the cockpit adjustabel shocks and weight jackers. I was thinking that the RR should be limited to how far it could be spaced out. I was thinking 20"???
On the 23 degree head I'm not sure how that could be easily checked??? Anyone with info on that??? With 1 3/4 header (or smaller) and a injection restrictor it won't matter what kind of head you run it won't flow.
I also think this idea of an added $200 prize money for those in top 10 in points to the purse will attract Racers to compete. Something nobody else does!!! Excelent idea!!!
 
1/12/09, 12:49 PM   #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonr View Post
This may not be a popular post, but I think you are going about this the wrong way. I think that you should have a strong vision of what kind of racing you want to create. Once you have this vision, you then need to hold strong to your beliefs and sell the idea to the racers.

Too many series are ruined by the drivers trying to set the rules. The inmates should not run the prison. It reduces the ******** and the claims of favortism when the promoter has a strong vision of the rules, and is not easily influinced by the drivers about rule changes.

The promoter can do other things to listen to the voice of the racer to make them feel welcomed, but the rule book should be sacred.
I got to agree at least a 100% with the part about the inmates not running the prison, that is what's happened to far too many organizations. If I were you, I'd consider patenting that "phrase". Bob:applaud:
 
1/12/09, 1:17 PM   #17
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no wings.... other than that sounds good
 
1/12/09, 2:49 PM   #18
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Speedsme
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Real nice comparing owner/drivers to inmates!!!!!!!!!

I think Sam getting input and making his own mind up is a great way of looking at the big picture and getting cars to support the series.

On the 23deg heads-no shaft mounted rockers is one way to check.

Make them run gaskets/injector sleeves(restrict the flow) and run what they want or have.
 
1/12/09, 3:49 PM   #19
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What is the SCORA and where can I find info on them Thanks in advance
 
1/12/09, 5:22 PM   #20
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like fox posted i am one of those who don't wanna drive rite past paragon to race for thw same money even of it is against more equal cars I am 20 minutes from paragon and a good two hrs from danville. I dont think the two dollar a gallon fuel will stay around long that is what the speculaters are saying and they where the reason for four dollar fuel. Also 20" rr from the frame would be a joke i would just offset my car so i could still use a long spline axle and get it 19" from the rr arm. on the tire rule i say let'm all run so we can get good used tires from the outlaw teams located all around indy. I have worked on usac teams and i dont see where the dt3 saved much because of all the extra tire prep and as soon as that thing looses and edge we'd junk it. there are still gonna be some guys with money try to run this series because they cant cut it in usac or whatever. Cherry Pickers! That will be hard to control. My experience with rules is the more rules you have the more people spend trying to brake them. make it outlaw racing where you have to engineer a P.O.S. and the real thinkers will prevail not the spenders:applaud:
 
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