The # one reason for no crowds at Silvercrown and Goldcrown races is 0 promotion no body knows your their. And the ones who have just by chance seen the races have enjoyed it.

OK I will give it a shot from what I have been told. Why wont promoters pay a silvercrown purse because you can get a sprintcar race for a lot less and you basically have the same thing. The average fan does not know the difference when looking at them running on the race track. Unless you know what you are looking at you can't tell the difference. Also Silvercrown purses have been reduced to sprint car payouts with a lot more travel so you get low car counts. Why are promoters interested in paying out larger purses for Goldcrown because they look different but yet look familiar. They have the ability to run at larger venues where the average fan of racing would be more likely to come and give them a look and if you put on a good show they will more than likely come back if they know you are their. The larger venues draw on a crowd that is much larger and different than you get at say a Winchester or Gas city. Another good comparison would be the crowd you draw to Raceway park vs The Indianapolis motorspeedway the die hard fans will go to raceway park and see great racing but you will not see to many soccer mom types that will go to the speedway.

THEN YOU GO TO USAC AND SO CALLED PORMOTERS AND HELP THEM OUT! WHY DOES THE CUP RACES OUT DRAW THE TRUCKS???????????? OR THE NATIONWIDE CARS THEY PROMOTE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SORRY TO SAY THIS AGAIN ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN YOUR WHIPPING A DEAD HORSE! I'VE BEEN IN RACING A LONG TIME AND I'VE SEEN ALL THE MISTAKES USAC NASCAR THE SPEEDWAY HAS DONE! THE IRL CAN'T FILL THE STANDS NOW NASCAR IS IN THE SAME BOAT!!!!!!!! RACING HAS LOST A LOT OF FANS WITH OLD AGE HIGH TICKET PRICES MOTEL AND TRAVEL EXPENCE!!!!!! KIDS TODAY DON'T CARE ABOUT IT THERE TO MANY VIDEO GAMES AND OTHER THINGS TO DO NOW! DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT COST TO TAKE A CAR FROM HERE TO PHOENIX AND RACE IT? I DO!!!!!!!!! I TOOK TONY STEWART TO HIS FIRST TV SHOW IN TAMPA FLA WHEN HE WAS A MIDGET DRIVER ONLY ONE LOCAL STATION WOULD USE HIM! THERE OTHERS SAID NO ONE KNOWS HIM WHO IS HE? :redflag:

YOU WOULD BE SHOCKED HOW MUCH DICK JORDAN DOES BEFORE A USAC RACE! THE MEDIA DOES NOT KNOW OR CARE ABOUT IT IF ITS NOT NASCAR!!!!!!!!!!!:checkered:

another subjective opinion/ data point.

I don't go to NASCAR races (too expensive & crowded), but I'd drive to Richmond, Martinsburg, Dover or Pocono to watch the GC on a NASCAR prelim or qualifying day. I'd probably enjoy the NASCAR qualifying, or whatever else they ran that day.

The new Gold Crown car would really appeal to me IF they were replacing the current IRL cars with it. Otherwise, I am on the fence as to if I really like it or not.

Regardless of what the car looks like, I do believe that USAC has done themselves a disservice by confusing everyone by first changing the cars into a tug boat, and now changing the cars and the name of the series. Not all of the fans who enjoyed watching the crown cars race frequent these message boards to know of the changes in the series.

Would sticking some Nascar drivers in the seats of these new cars make me come out to watch, probably not...but if a Dave Darland, Cole Whitt, Hunter, Stanbrough were in the seat, then I certainly would check out a show. I could only hope that some of the better drivers will get opportunities in these cars, not just drivers with money.

Ok Superduke it is a given that in your day Sprint cars, Midgets, and the Big cars ruled and those days are gone but everything runs in a cycle INDY CARS took over midgets and sprints then Nascar took over INDY CARS and now NASCAR is having a hard time filling seats why is that ? The same thing that killed INDY CARS cost it cost to much to field a car you were cut down to a few super teams just like you are seeing in NASCAR today. Fans get tired of seeing the same old thing, same guys winning all the time. People tend to root for the underdog but with the way things are set up the underdog has no chance in hell of competing unless he is attached to a super team. Race fans are leaving NASCAR because they have seen the same thing week in and week out and they are looking for something new. That is where the Goldcrown div comes in good racing,top notch race tracks and drivers that come out of our own back yard. I think Dick Jordan does a good job with what he is given to work with I personally think he is sent into a street fight with one hand tied behind his back. I can also understand why you feel so negative about this hole subject you have seen the sport that you put a lot of your sole into over the years fall flat on its face. It's gone from #1 to the bottom of the ******* in your life time. I am only a very small piece of the puzzle but I am going to do everything I can do to help put the sport that I truly enjoy headed back to the top. And the way I see that happening is through the Goldcrown div. If you want to see some of open wheels greatest supporters you need to look at the guys who have invested in the Goldcrown cars we all did so trying to better the sport and because we believed in the cause.

Yes SUPERDUKE I do know what it cost to take a car to Phoenix it will cost at a least 5000.00 and can go up to $10,000.00 for one car it depends on how you want to roll.

WELL I DON'T KNOW SC96 WHO ARE YOU? DO YOU OWN A CAR? JOHNNY VANCE IN DAYTON HAS ONE AND TWO SO CALLED SILVER CROWN CARS ONE PAVEMENT CAR AND ONE DIRT CAR AND HE CANT SELL ANY OF THEM! AND IS GOING TO MAKE A STREET CAR OUT OF IS GOLD CROWN CAR! GOOD LUCK TOO YOU!!!:checkered:

Yes I do own 2 Goldcrown cars and I own a pavement Silvercrown car and you are right you cant sell them but then again mine are not for sale. I know that if you new the whole story behind the current Goldcrown project you would understand.