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ChrisB
  #1 1/24/09 8:51 PM
Hello from PA! Mac Miller had recommended this forum (from Trackforum) and I had read through the 15-or-so page USAC GC thread a few weeks back. Rather than dig that up, I just had one specific question...

Does the car have the driver sitting right up over the driveshaft like a regular sprint car?

If so, Why? Was there any consideration given to having it run alongside so that the driver could sit lower, for a lower overall CG and frontal profile?

I guess it could be done by centering the engine, and having a trans which runs the driveshaft off to one side, or just offsetting the engine, like the Dowker JetRod?

sc96 (Offline)
  #2 1/24/09 10:35 PM
Yes the drive line runs the same way as current silvercrown cars but the goldcrown cars also have a 2 speed transmission. I would think trying to run a drive line down the side of the car would be very expensive and very unpractical. I dont know of any openwheel cars currently running offset drive lines.
ChrisB
  #3 1/25/09 10:01 AM
Actually the reason there aren't any offset sprinters may very well be because of the Dowker Jetrod - it was so dominant in its time that it was banned - everyone would have had to replace their existing cars to match it.

However, since the USAC GC is a unique new series, there wouldn't be any cars made obsolete. I figured a lower offset roadster-style might have been better and offer more stability at higher speeds. So why did they go with the higher "driver over the driveshaft" arrangement? Tradition?


(Would anyone here have liked to have seen this new USAC GC car with a lower offset arrangment?)
sprntr (Offline)
  #4 1/25/09 3:35 PM
Originally Posted by sc96:
Yes the drive line runs the same way as current silvercrown cars but the goldcrown cars also have a 2 speed transmission. I would think trying to run a drive line down the side of the car would be very expensive and very unpractical. I dont know of any openwheel cars currently running offset drive lines.
You mean other than Supermodifieds?

BTW, did you find a starter?
sprntr (Offline)
  #5 1/25/09 3:40 PM
Originally Posted by ChrisB:
If so, Why?
Because USAC wanted a "traditional styled" car.
sc96 (Offline)
  #6 1/25/09 9:54 PM
Originally Posted by sprntr:
You mean other than Supermodifieds?

BTW, did you find a starter?
Yep. The GC cars are built on a center line no offset.
racephoto1 (Offline)
  #7 1/25/09 10:50 PM
Funny Rich Vogler was never dominated by Chassey in the roadster. To watch Vogler beat him in an old upright was a thing of beauty. To watch Vogler drive the Miller plating car at Winchester beat BOTH supers and roadsters was a vision I will never forget.

I guess it just was a matter of who the driver is,and nobody was tougher than Rich.
Ovalmeister (Offline)
  #8 1/25/09 11:13 PM
Originally Posted by racephoto1:
Funny Rich Vogler was never dominated by Chassey in the roadster. To watch Vogler beat him in an old upright was a thing of beauty. To watch Vogler drive the Miller plating car at Winchester beat BOTH supers and roadsters was a vision I will never forget.

I guess it just was a matter of who the driver is,and nobody was tougher than Rich.

Yeaaaaah....that was a good day. :thumb


mac miller (Offline)
  #9 1/26/09 3:21 AM
Originally Posted by ChrisB:
Actually the reason there aren't any offset sprinters may very well be because of the Dowker Jetrod - it was so dominant in its time that it was banned

Actually, Jet Eng. wasn't that great. Armstrong Mould beat them in '79 for the USAC championship. The only year that they went head to head.

As far as the super safety crown car..
Until they get over their overwhelming obsession with "crashing" and design a proper car for "racing", this whole mess will continue to be a "no sale".




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Bronco Billy Molkenbur (Offline)
  #10 1/26/09 4:13 PM
Originally Posted by Ovalmeister:
Yeaaaaah....that was a good day. :thumb


I was there, King Of The Hill...Nobody then or now could out ball Richie V!
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