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AsianPersuasian (Offline)
  #1 12/7/08 12:40 PM
Hey guys, i was wondering your oppinion on the Super Seat vs. The Advantage seat. Who runs which, etc.
Bilbee17 (Offline)
  #2 12/7/08 7:37 PM
I like the ultrashield seat better myself, thats what i run in my sprint car. It is safe and a lot lighter than the bultlerbuilt seat imo. Ive never used a butlerbuilt seat but i have heard many people tell me that the padding is so stiff in them that your head just kind of bounces and jarrs around on the rough race tracks. The ultrashield seat is also cheaper and i would not buy anything else except an ultrashield seat.
Todd Kimmel (Offline)
  #3 12/7/08 8:11 PM
I have had both! When I crashed at lawrenceburg my ultra shield bent. Never had a problem with my Butler. I love it! As for the padding, Jeannie has changed the padding and it is a lot softer. You hardley know it is there.

I wouldnt trade my Butler for anything

Todd Kimmel
coondog (Offline)
  #4 12/7/08 8:20 PM
Hands down, the Butlerbuilt is worth the money. Yes they may be heavier, but I feel they are safer. If you are trying to compare safety, then its worth a couple pounds. I ran the other once and had the worst headache ever afterward. Brian Butler and everyone there are always looking for the latest way to make us more safe. Padding, upholstry, craftsmanship is far better than anything else you will see.

Jerry Coons
AsianPersuasian (Offline)
  #5 12/7/08 9:41 PM
Yea, i had heard about peoples' heads getting jarred about pretty badly in the Advantage due to the dense padding, but didnt know if it was true.
kstudley57 (Offline)
  #6 12/7/08 9:43 PM
this year i used ultrashield seat and had a big flip early in the year and the seat bent quite a bit. the 2nd flip was at kamp, see youtube video, and the seat completely deformed and opened up. i would go with the butlerbuilt, we sure are. its not worth saving the money when you see what a crash can do to them.
kevin studley

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Charles Nungester (Offline)
  #7 12/7/08 10:44 PM
This one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hhwV4TdxZI

That was one wicked ride there Kevin, Glad your ok. It was scary to watch live

Charles Nungester
riskybrisky5 (Offline)
  #8 12/7/08 10:55 PM
Over my career I have used about every seat. I started with the low back thin aluminum. To me there is not a seat that can match the Lajoie seat. From comfort to safety there is not a better seat. Also Randy and the crew are there for any questions and help. Best seat and people to deal with in my opinion.
StandOnThePedal (Offline)
  #9 12/7/08 11:07 PM
In every aspect the ButlerBuilt seat is the best seat out there in my openion. I have had a few hard flips in the sprint car (not as hard as others) and the ButlerBuilt seat held up perfict. Nothing was wrong with the seat when we pulled it out of the car. I am a huge fan of ButlerBuilt seats and wouldnt run another brand in one of my race cars. A few pounds isnt worth your safety.
6157 (Offline)
  #10 12/8/08 12:14 AM
My personal preference would be the Butlerbuilt BUT comfort and proper fit are a major part of the package in keeping a driver safe, so I can't say I would advocate one over the other.

Now, excuse me while I talk out of both sides of my mouth: I wouldn't advocate one seat over another unless that seat was the LaJoie. As Kevin said, the LaJoie is hands down the best seat I have ever seen and rarely do I ever hear any negative comments about it. If you don't feel comfortable with it or have problems with a fit, LaJoie will go above and beyond to help you out.
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