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dustbowl (Offline)
  #41 9/11/08 2:42 AM
Originally Posted by LEADERS EDGE:
As far as the Toyota thing, I'm sure they will have motors, but their effect on the local scene will be minimal, just like MoPar. The Indiana deal is self governing and self leveling.
Toyota doesn't have an aluminum block for one so a sprint car version isn't very plausible, and everyone loves to dog the Toyota silver crown and claims all the money it cost to run one, but it doesn't necessarily cost anymore to buy a brand new Toyota as it does to buy a brand new "Chevy" (the only true Chevy head running is the SB2, which is only legal in the Silver Crown series) or Ford or whatever else. And as far as money in the sport??? Top finishing Toyota receives like 2500 and second fininishing Toyota silver crown receives like 1200 or so, not to mention a points fund. Whats Chevy or Mopar giving you to run there engines???
Charles Nungester (Online)
  #42 9/11/08 4:45 AM
Originally Posted by Rex W.:
The WoO have said no Toyotas & no to the new Chevys
Wait till the lobbiest get done with em

Charles Nungester
Charles Nungester (Online)
  #43 9/11/08 4:51 AM
Originally Posted by DonRacer:
Charles,

Please reread, I said Wimps not Wings

Thanks,
Don
OH VEY!


I wouldn't call anyone willing to climb in one of these cars and stomp it a wimp.
Chuck

Charles Nungester
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #44 9/11/08 8:59 AM
Originally Posted by dustbowl:
Toyota doesn't have an aluminum block for one so a sprint car version isn't very plausible, and everyone loves to dog the Toyota silver crown and claims all the money it cost to run one, but it doesn't necessarily cost anymore to buy a brand new Toyota as it does to buy a brand new "Chevy" (the only true Chevy head running is the SB2, which is only legal in the Silver Crown series) or Ford or whatever else. And as far as money in the sport??? Top finishing Toyota receives like 2500 and second fininishing Toyota silver crown receives like 1200 or so, not to mention a points fund. Whats Chevy or Mopar giving you to run there engines???
I WAS AT THE TURKEY NITE RACE LAST YEAR AND TOYOTA WON BOTH THE MIDGET AND 360 SPRINT CAR RACES!:checkered:
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #45 9/11/08 9:05 AM
Originally Posted by Offy22:
How about some more info? Tough to rum on alky with 9:1 but 10K for a years worth of motor is a far cry from what is currently being spent. I'm all ears...
GET A HOLD OF CHEVY RACING IN MICH. THEY WANT TO PUT THERES ENGINES IN A SPRINT CAR SERIES! EMMITT HAHN KNOWS ABOUT IT!:checkered:
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #46 9/11/08 9:17 AM
Originally Posted by throb:
is this who to contact about these engines? if so can you pm with info??? thanks..
TOM HUNT IS THE USAC WEST COAST DIRECTOR AND HAD A MEETING WITH CHEVY TO PUT THE ENGINE IN THE WEST COAST USAC SERIES! EMMITT HAHN ALSO KNOWS ABOUT THE ENGINE!:checkered:
Pat O'Connor Fan (Offline)
  #47 9/11/08 9:23 AM
Originally Posted by SUPERDUKE:
YOU DON'T GET IT! :redflag:
Sorry, Duke, but Scott Baue is not the one who just doesn't get it. How many 410s do you think there are in the Midwest right now? And how many of the folks owning these 410s are going to rush down to their local Chevrolet dealer to buy one of the spec engines? Without established tracks and/or sanctioning bodies endorsing (and enforcing) these engines, the idea of spec engines replacing all of those 410s is just "pie in the sky" dream land stuff -- nice to wish for, but certainly not worth getting anyone's shorts in such a knot that he winds up wearing a thong.
Duke, I'm with you in longing for those so-called "good ol' days" with skinny tires and smaller engines. But we must live in the present.
SUPERDUKE (Offline)
  #48 9/11/08 9:42 AM
Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan:
Sorry, Duke, but Scott Baue is not the one who just doesn't get it. How many 410s do you think there are in the Midwest right now? And how many of the folks owning these 410s are going to rush down to their local Chevrolet dealer to buy one of the spec engines? Without established tracks and/or sanctioning bodies endorsing (and enforcing) these engines, the idea of spec engines replacing all of those 410s is just "pie in the sky" dream land stuff -- nice to wish for, but certainly not worth getting anyone's shorts in such a knot that he winds up wearing a thong.
Duke, I'm with you in longing for those so-called "good ol' days" with skinny tires and smaller engines. But we must live in the present.
HOW MANY CAN AFFORD TO RACE 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK? HIRE A DRIVER? AND RACE FOR $1000 TO WIN? WHAT IS A 410 ITS A SPEC ENGINE! WHY NOT A 500 CI. TURBO CHARGED! I'AM NOT SELLING THESE ENGINES BUT I'AM FOR CUTTING THE HIGH COST OF RACING MIDGETS AND SPRINTS CARS! THERE ARE A HELL OF A LOT MORE 360 CI IN THE USA THEN 410CI BLAME TED JOHNSON AND WOO FOR THE 410 $50000 ENGINES! THEN YOU ALL JUMPED ON BOARD INCLUDING USAC WHEN THEY HAD A 355 CI. RULE THAT YOU COULD RUN IN YOUR SPRINT & CHAMP DIRT CAR! ITS TIME FOR SOME COST CUTTING CHANGE! DO YOU OWN A 410 SPRINT CAR?:checkered:
Charles Nungester (Online)
  #49 9/11/08 9:46 AM
Its not about everyone trading in their 410. Its about unhooking them enough so that 370 can run with em. Or a 360-427-454 ect.

The cost of the 410 is simply because its 410 and they keep working and working to get more and more out of it. Talking to Rob Chenneys dad a couple years back he said he couldn't get a set of heads for what he could get a whole motor for just five years prior.

I think there is very exciting racing today and then there are sometimes when someone is running 25 qualifying laps and they finish by HP not driver ability.

Chuck, Trying not to dissrespect anyone here and certainly its not just the cars, motors or drivers but track conditions and other things.

Charles Nungester
Motormasher (Offline)
  #50 9/11/08 9:58 AM
Your right Superduke, Derek Fisher and Kevin Briscoe.
Who could compete with Jon Stanbrough when he was on his game? Only a few drivers had (or have) the same "high dollar" equipment as the Foxco Team. Look where they are at now? Where is Danny Holtsclaw? When these guys tore up their cars they tore up alot of $$$$$.
Too many guys have quit over the last few years and its all because it cost too much. I myself am a victom of that, I need a $,4,000 injection to finish my motor and I can't afford it, but if I don't get one I know I won't be able to run up front.
I myself HATE rules, I believe in "runnin what you brung" but a series with some limitations would make it easier for guys like me to stay in racing. SPRINT CAR RACING!:checkered:
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