Went to a fight and a race broke out

Jerry Shaw · 7/25/08, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stagger

That is the problem with this world to many candy a$$'s. Jail Please. Give me a break. yea lets fill our already over crowed jails and court with stupid $hit like that.

Please, be a man and suck it up...... This is a dog eat dog world so i suggest not wearing milk bone underwear.

You've been around this board for a while. Seems like you should have sense enough to know which members have earned a sufficient amount of respect that they don't deserve to get the anonymous "I'm tougher than you" routine. IMO, Mike (Mud Packer), is one of those members.

And the way I read it, he wasn't calling for Tony's arrest. He was just saying, hey he should watch out, because he could be arrested for something like that. With that said, I saw that as it happened last night and it just looked like a shove. Something for USAC to address, but not anything to haul someone away for.

Jerry

agar · 7/25/08, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FishBurger

TS reminds me more than a little of another former Hoosier icon who commited so many charitable and selfless acts but, much to his detriment, could not control his ego and temper. That said, this was not that big of a deal IMO and I'd be surprised if anything further comes of it. :checkered:

Watch it you better keep John Dillinger Out of this :rolling:rolling

Seadog · 7/25/08, 12:50 PM

I wonder how Tony would react to the push truck situation if he was at the Little 500 pits and 5 or 6 cars made a pit stop at the same time?

Charles Nungester · 7/25/08, 1:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FishBurger

TS reminds me more than a little of another former Hoosier icon who commited so many charitable and selfless acts but, much to his detriment, could not control his ego and temper. That said, this was not that big of a deal IMO and I'd be surprised if anything further comes of it. :checkered:

Wasn't he a texan?

CRA91 · 7/25/08, 1:43 PM

Maybe Tony's team will start bringing it's own push truck to the races,to be used specifically for their cars only?:idea:

Charles Nungester · 7/25/08, 1:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KRJoyce1

Chuck, I think most of know the rule. Problem was (and you wouldn't know because you didn't see it!!) :doh: the car WAS ready to push of just prior to the one to go signal to the field and a push truck was not even close....Why???? That is the question, and that is why Tony and the TSR Crew had GOOD reason to be upset......shoving...maybe not, but hey, in the heat of battle...stuff happens....:angry-smiley-007:

Ken Joyce

Well thanks for that verification of what you seen. On the net they said the one too go had been given just as he pushed to the push off area.

I don't know and I'll admitt that.
Chuck

Preacher Dave · 7/25/08, 2:02 PM

I was there and the car was not ready to be pushed at the one to go signal. They were on the backstrech before the crew moved away from the car so that it could be pushed. Then they had to get the car to the inspection box to receive a push. This was all talked about in the drivers meeting before the race. Actually it has been repeated many times throughout the year.

David Thompson

Jerry Shaw · 7/25/08, 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester

Wasn't he a texan?

I think the former Hoosier icon Marv is talking about lives in Texas, now. I could be wrong though.

Jerry

FishBurger · 7/25/08, 2:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester

Wasn't he a texan?

You're probably thinking A.J. Foyt, Chuck. The red sweatered former Buckeye who was later to become a "Hoosier icon" may well be a Texan at this writing for all I know or care. :wink

AlkyMadness · 7/25/08, 2:22 PM

The overall attitude in response to TS doing this is hypocritically funny. If Tony does it, well, he had good reason and it's really okay.

Now, if Sammy Swindell had committed this same act, the howling would be heard for hundreds of miles calling for his arrest and dismemberment. Same goes for the outrage that Steve Kinser seemed to incur on several message boards when he lit into the WoO officials at Eldora.

Just depends on who the perp is.

I believe most sanctioning bodies do have rules against "handling" officials. And they need to be enforced just like other major "respectable" sports do (NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, etc). No need for the law to be involved (unless physical injury results).

USAC should ban TSR from all sanctioned events for 30 days effective immediately. This kind of crap needs to be nipped in the bud. Otherwise, it sends a message to every team owner and driver that it's okay to "intimidate" officials. Once shoving becomes acceptable, then punches become borderline.

Is this a harsh penalty, sure. But Kevin Miller and USAC are trying to sell their product to new audiences and capture more of the market. I can assure you, NASCAR would penalize the hell out of Tony if he did that to one of their pit road staff.

If you shoved a track official at a show at Bloomington, Gas City, the Burg, or Haubstadt, I suspect you'd be escorted out and asked not to come back for a while.

7/25/08, 1:43 PM	#15 Re: Went to a fight and a race broke out
CRA91 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,378	Maybe Tony's team will start bringing it's own push truck to the races,to be used specifically for their cars only?:idea: __________________ Terry James Jr.

7/25/08, 12:50 PM	#13 Re: Went to a fight and a race broke out
Seadog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,136	I wonder how Tony would react to the push truck situation if he was at the Little 500 pits and 5 or 6 cars made a pit stop at the same time?

7/25/08, 2:02 PM	#17 Re: Went to a fight and a race broke out
Preacher Dave Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 11	I was there and the car was not ready to be pushed at the one to go signal. They were on the backstrech before the crew moved away from the car so that it could be pushed. Then they had to get the car to the inspection box to receive a push. This was all talked about in the drivers meeting before the race. Actually it has been repeated many times throughout the year. David Thompson

7/25/08, 2:22 PM	#20 Re: Went to a fight and a race broke out
AlkyMadness Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 233	The overall attitude in response to TS doing this is hypocritically funny. If Tony does it, well, he had good reason and it's really okay. Now, if Sammy Swindell had committed this same act, the howling would be heard for hundreds of miles calling for his arrest and dismemberment. Same goes for the outrage that Steve Kinser seemed to incur on several message boards when he lit into the WoO officials at Eldora. Just depends on who the perp is. I believe most sanctioning bodies do have rules against "handling" officials. And they need to be enforced just like other major "respectable" sports do (NFL, NHL, NBA, NCAA, etc). No need for the law to be involved (unless physical injury results). USAC should ban TSR from all sanctioned events for 30 days effective immediately. This kind of crap needs to be nipped in the bud. Otherwise, it sends a message to every team owner and driver that it's okay to "intimidate" officials. Once shoving becomes acceptable, then punches become borderline. Is this a harsh penalty, sure. But Kevin Miller and USAC are trying to sell their product to new audiences and capture more of the market. I can assure you, NASCAR would penalize the hell out of Tony if he did that to one of their pit road staff. If you shoved a track official at a show at Bloomington, Gas City, the Burg, or Haubstadt, I suspect you'd be escorted out and asked not to come back for a while.