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Looks like Jiggs has been catching hell for something that was taken out of his hands.
Thanks USAC

[Poorboyjocko]

Originally Posted by Bulldogs So is USAC in charge of watering the tracks the week of Indiana Sprint Week or does the track owners take care of the tracks through the week. :confused:

I am sure the track owners or promoters and there staff take care of the preperation of the track befor the event. I do know from the ISW show at Gas City that Jiggs asked asked USAC top officals--do you want the track reworked--and the answer was-- NO. I was standing there when that question was asked. If you timed the B-mains that night you would of seen they were in the 12:6+ seconds and that is fast. So that call might of been just. But for the Action track and the dirt car race, there was no excust for that track and the water issue, USAC and or THAT. You both share in the effort to have a good track for the fans and racers. That much down time-put water on the track. It was evident after wheel packing the track was not watered enough from the bottom to the middle. I sat on the front streach and did not see that first car enter the first turn or exit the second turn. After 15 laps I moved to the outside of turn four to the wood tower with the same resaults. What little racing I saw in turn three and four was good, but it was only wourth fourth laps and I had enough of the Action Track. There was a good fan turn out, but there will probably be a lot of them that will not return to a dirt race because of the dusty conditions that night.

Phil Poor

[terrehautian]

As far as the track prep goes at THAT, I know they have one small water track, one tractor, and the big water truck making laps around the track before 6pm. The track was packed down for almost all of it by hot laps session number two. Halfway through the feature, the track was pretty packed almost to the top in turns one and two. Despite the dust, I could see everything happening in my corning, but it made my pictures come out bad.

Also, anyone remember how dusty the track was last year? Oh wait, there was no races last year. I woudl rather have a dusty track than no track at all.

[Ovalmeister]

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[Big Willy]

I wonder if usac is telling promoters what to do to their race tracks, why they don't instruct more of them follow the direction they obviously gave to the Helfrich crew at Tri-State Speedway for ISW? It would only seem logical if they are in charge of track prep they would do the same bang up job everywhere that they do at the Class Track...:rolling

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by Poorboyjocko I am sure the track owners or promoters and there staff take care of the preperation of the track befor the event. I do know from the ISW show at Gas City that Jiggs asked asked USAC top officals--do you want the track reworked--and the answer was-- NO. I was standing there when that question was asked. If you timed the B-mains that night you would of seen they were in the 12:6+ seconds and that is fast. So that call might of been just. But for the Action track and the dirt car race, there was no excust for that track and the water issue, USAC and or THAT. You both share in the effort to have a good track for the fans and racers. That much down time-put water on the track. It was evident after wheel packing the track was not watered enough from the bottom to the middle. I sat on the front streach and did not see that first car enter the first turn or exit the second turn. After 15 laps I moved to the outside of turn four to the wood tower with the same resaults. What little racing I saw in turn three and four was good, but it was only wourth fourth laps and I had enough of the Action Track. There was a good fan turn out, but there will probably be a lot of them that will not return to a dirt race because of the dusty conditions that night. Phil Poor

So if Jiggs got in the water truck and started watering because it's whats best for his fans and track, What would USAC be able to do about it?

Sorry, I don't buy it. A show running till 11-11:30 on a friday or saturday night is not late. Midnight is getting toward the late end of things for a EVENT. A track should do whats best for the track and nobody else.

Chuck, who's been to several kings royals and other big events that pushed off at 1am and never heard a word of bitchin about it..

P.S. This isn't a shot at Jiggs. It's about doing the right thing vs a early ending

[Flatrightrear]

I would imagine that if USAC or anybody else told Tom Helfrich that they, and not he, would be dictating track conditions at his track that he would clearly tell them that no, they are not. That boy worries himself sick over trying to get the track as right as possible.

[Dave Rudisell]

In defense to promotors and USAC: USAC and promotors work together, USAC will make suggestions and you can follow them or tell them no, either way its the promotors final decision. In the heat of the moment when a track could be worked on or keep the program running its a tuff call, damned if you do and damned if you don't. There are a million variables in track prep. Like i have said before.
We work on our track pretty much seven days a week to make it right. When racetime starts all you can do is sit back and hope it all comes together, No matter what you do, people will says its to wet or to dry. If you ever make everyone happy, say a prayer because you time is up.
Peace, Dave Rudisell

I just know that I went to Bloomington last Fri day night for Indiana Speedweek and the track was dusty. The track was smooth and fast but boy did I eat a lot of dirt on the front strech. If I did not have glasses w/ me I would of not been able to watch that race. But I do understand your dammed if you do work on it and your dammed if you dont work on the track. I thought over all the track was fast but it was not the most enjoyable race to watch due to the dust. Reference the time, I also agree that 11-1130 is not late. Now when you are getting around 1am it is starting to become late.
My over all view about dirt track racing is (Don't go to a dirt track if you dont want to get dirty, stay at home.)
Bulldogs

[service manager]

Yes, and they don't want the regular track crew to touch the tracks like they don't know what they are doing! They pulled the same stunt over at Kokomo for sprint week. I love it Stewart about put one of the usac guys on there ass, as iam sure they were just standing there once again not paying attention like normal! How about when Brad Sweet flipped that sunday at Kokomo during sprint week and the USAC crew took his helmet off and he had no idea where he was at the time. Just stating the facts that i have seen in the past few years with USAC, they need to get on the same page with our local tracks and take some lessons!!:checkered: