that sprintcarjim posted. I seen some others on here & other message boards talking about Eldora track prep as I have in the past, it is what it is. Go or stay home. You can't say anything because you are a nobody. But I did catch Robert Ballou's comments last night after he won in stating "This is no longer the house that Earl built". That just stood out. Other Racers have said it as well or in a round about way. When will something be done or will it be status quo as long as the fans are coming. I opted for the Big E.

As Far as someone coming from 21st to 4th doesn't make the track good or bad it is a combination of setup, driver & the stars aligning.

It's not the first time and it won't be the last. The success or not will be if he can keep the stands filled.

In the late 90s Either the City or the Insurance forced Staab to have the top of the track cut back 15ft away from the wall at Lawrenceburg due to a weak wall and a area of that wall in front of the stage that had collapsed. Well that took the top four feet of the track off all the way around. Yet with the track in the new flatter slicker configuration we had 35-40 sprints every night. They'd hold a special and someone like Huntley or others would win and say the same thing, It isn't the BURG anymore without the lip on the track
2001 they build new grandstands concessions, restrooms. Still getting 35 cars a night for regular shows. By 2004 there were nights there wasn't 300 fans in the stands.and I heard people while walking out. Same show as last week. Catfish track, slow and boring.

It wasn't like there were a ton of people on message boards bashing tracks, There were no message boards. A few chatrooms here and there but the net was trivial at best.

Someone said to me in the other thread in response to my statement that it used to be a hammer down track That doesn't always make for good racing either. I'll agree with that. Not always but as long as it's not completely one groove that can be blocked. It's exciting.

But when you see Joe Gaerte or Charlie Fisher running as hard as they can on the cushion that is five feet from the wall and Dale Blaney stuffs his car over the cushion, foot on the floor between those guys and the wall to pass. THAT IS JUST OMG BREATHTAKING. That and the slide for life that has now become a slow motion ballet are the house that earl built.

I used to go to the big E 8 to 10 times a year which was a lot of 5 hours drives one way. This is when Earl owned the place,I was so in awe when walked though that gate and saw the track and thought about all my hero"s who had raced there . I just couldn"t understand this big famous track being so dusty, but I kept showing up,lol like so many others. I know Earl would spray water on it but that would be gone while the cars were lineing up for their heat or feature didn"t matter I know this was way before track operators had these track scratchers as I call them,there are some tracks where I don"t think it would help anyway. So I stopped going , but that was just part of the problem, I'm going going to step on some toes now, but it seems the younger crowd cares more about how much beer they can drink than the races. And there was a bunch that can"t handle the alcohol and getting sick in the stands and loved hearing the guy who bragged how many beers he drank last night but couldn"t tell you who won the feature I even had one take a swing at me once, missed by a county mile and wond up falling down the steps. I thought it will be better with Tony takeing over, wrong, I went to the big spring race for USAC and was later named the big dust out, could tell there had been no work done to the track over the winter when you could see green weeds growing in track and by the wall, but I thought it would be ok cuz they were pouring the water to it, boy was I wrong lol. First hot lap session as the cars got the green and went by the suites in turn three you could only see about half of the suites by the second lap you couldn"t see any of it . Thankfully USAC called the races, Eldora wanted to just give rain checks I tried to explain that I couldn"T come back in two weeks so I lost my 20 bucks and they lost a race fan Sorry about writeing a book.

Really!!!??? Supposed "dirt racing" fans complaining about dust?

Do you remember the Eldora dust out?

Puppy, 1 night setting in turn 4 when Dallas Hewitt was running a Simon car he caught the wall & the only reason I knew he did was because I could see glimpses of the lights hitting his frame as he was flipping.

I also remember 1 night at a USAC show blocking dirt clods & people were actually moving out of the area. Turn 4 used to hardly get any dust, I don't know if it was because of the other fence or not but something happened that don't let the air flow over anymore.