[DonRacer]

Originally Posted by Sprint Fan THE DAY USAC BECOMES A "SPEC" SERIES.............I'LL QUIT GOING TO WATCH AND BY A FISHING BOAT! :moon::kookoo:moon:

USAC is a limited 410 spec series now and won't be interesting and innovative until they drop all engine and fuel rules.
By the way Kevin, did you ever bother to ask your buddies at Mopar if they could build an unlimited engine for about 1/2 the cost of a current 410 if they applied themselves?

Originally Posted by DonRacer USAC is a limited 410 spec series now

Not hardly a "Spec" series! They have engine rules, not a single supplier of engines! That my friend is NOT a "Spec" series!

I would myself LOVE to see an UNLIMITED series! But calling USAC a "Spec" series shows a tad bit of ignorance!

:angry-smiley-007:

[DonRacer]

Originally Posted by Sprint Fan Not hardly a "Spec" series! They have engine rules, not a single supplier of engines! That my friend is NOT a "Spec" series! I would myself LOVE to see an UNLIMITED series! But calling USAC a "Spec" series shows a tad bit of ignorance! :angry-smiley-007:

IRL, NASCAR, F1 all spec series racing, only the IRL currently has a single engine supplier and not by choice.
Drop sprint car engine and fuel rules and we have something none of the above have.

Originally Posted by DonRacer IRL, NASCAR, F1 all spec series racing, only the IRL currently has a single engine supplier and not by choice. Drop sprint car engine and fuel rules and we have something none of the above have.

We got no argument about having a sprint series with "OPEN" rules.
That would be freakin' AWESOME!
Ain't gonna happen, but it would be awesome.

But I still don't get how F1 is a "Spec" series?
IRL is spec chassis/spec engine, NASCAR is spec chassis.
But F1, how is that spec anything?
I am NOT a big F1 fan, just wondering how you come up with that?

[DonRacer]

Originally Posted by Sprint Fan We got no argument about having a sprint series with "OPEN" rules. That would be freakin' AWESOME! Ain't gonna happen, but it would be awesome. But I still don't get how F1 is a "Spec" series? IRL is spec chassis/spec engine, NASCAR is spec chassis. But F1, how is that spec anything? I am NOT a big F1 fan, just wondering how you come up with that?

"Engines are mandated as 2.4 litre naturally aspirated V8s, with many other constraints on their design and the materials that may be used. The 2006 generation of engines spun up to 20,000 rpm and produced up to 780 bhp (582 kW).[39] The previous generation of 3 litre V10 engines are also allowed, albeit with their revs limited and with an air restrictor to limit performance. Engines run on unleaded fuel closely resembling publicly available petrol. The oil which lubricates and protects the engine from overheating is very similar in viscosity to water. For 2007 the V8 engines are restricted to 19,000 rpm with limited development areas allowed, following the engine specification freeze from the end of 2006."
-Wikipedia

Sounds like a limited spec series to me.

Then every series that has engine rules is a spec series?

Nah...........I don't think so.

[polecar]

another thing that is going to have to change is the payout structure. the payout is going to have to pay more to start a race and less to win. i cant afford to leave 2 to 3 hundred dollars at the race track every week for a 100 dollars to start the main. there is a good chance that i'm not going to win, but i would like to at least break even.
travel, ha. midget week would cost me 2 grand or more. for what 5 or 6 hundred dollars, if i'm lucky. i look at it this way, i dont like taking money out of my pockets so the promoter can put money in his.
the high cost of racing is going to hit almost everyone. lets see what car counts are going to be in august.
i just saw diesel at $4.79 today.

[DonRacer]

Originally Posted by Sprint Fan Then every series that has engine rules is a spec series? Nah...........I don't think so.

its 100% true, they all have limited specifications for fuel and engine so,
from Mine and the Scientific Community's standpoint, the F-1, IRL, NASCAR, NHRA and the USAC are all "Spec Series Racing"
Maybe the big boy's at Chevrolet can tell me to my face that they could not build an unlimited engine (No Engine or Fuel Rules)
for less than 1/2 of what they charge for a 410, since Kevin's buddies at MOPAR apparently,are not allowed to answer publicly.
Don

Dude.........what are you smokin'?
And how much is it?

:rolling

from Mine and the Scientific Community's standpoint, the F-1, IRL, NASCAR, NHRA and the USAC are all "Spec Series Racing"

*** does the "Scientific Community" know about racing?
Hell they think Global Wraming is CAUSED by racing!

Put the crack pipe down and back away from the keyboard!
:angry-smiley-007:

[DonRacer]

Crack is very bad for you.
Sorry I used the word scientific, I should have said from the racing world's standpoint, .F-1, IRL, NASCAR, NHRA and the USAC are all "Spec Series Racing".
Open the engine-fuel rules, and sprint car racing, with the right marketing and promotion of those rules would have a good chance to enter the Big Leagues.