[apexin]

Originally Posted by ColtonHardy41 Apexin, for one Canyon in Arizona is a 1/3 mile track not a 3/8's. I just raced there last week in my 600 Micro. It is completely different from a sprint car. My micro is a lay down, the motor hangs out to the left. There is NO MINISPRINT (Uprights) in the state of Arizona. An upright the motor sits right in the middle of the car and the driver is sitting upright like in a sprint car and midget, but the upright is chain driven while a sprint car is not. You just can't swap the motor out between a minisprint and sprint car. You can change the motor from a 410 sprinter to a 360 sprinter but not to a MINISPRINT. I've also been in a non-wing and wing sprint car, they all sound and feel different. A wing driver can't always go run non wing and vise versa. The 410 last year in November ran a very low 13 in qualifying while my 600 micro non-wing ran approximately a 15 sec lap time. The lap times are completely different, so are the weights of the cars, horsepower and torque each car produce. A micro will not be able to compete with a sprint car/midget and any track. Period end of discussion. Thanks A Sim and Dirt Track Racer

Colton,

I never compared a micro to a sprint car. I said that they run 3 different categories of sprint cars at canyon at different times of the year. Usac 410, 360 and challenge cup. All three divisions use the same car, different engine. Period, end of discussion.

[PatrickMead#13]

Is there any kind of entrants list for next weekend out there yet?

[Avon Open Wheel fan]

Originally Posted by PatrickMead#13 Is there any kind of entrants list for next weekend out there yet?

I hope to put something out soon. Steve is still receiving pre-entries every day in the mail so the list is growing. There is drivers from at least 8 different states and series already pre-registered.

If any drivers want to comment that they are coming on here that will also help me with building a list.

[apexin]

Originally Posted by riskybrisky5 A little history on Indiana Openwheel. Most probably do not know that Bill Gardner started this site way back when as USACfans.com I believe was the name. It was basically started from sim racing the old ratbag computer sprint car game. Bill had leagues and a lot of us guys got together weekly and competed as sim racers. I believe without sim racing this site may not even be here. I have been a sim racer since it started and I believe it is a great option for fans and racers alike to wheel there favorite type car around there favorite track. I have developed many friendships through sim racing and Bill Gardner was one of those friends!

I totally agree with you and never meant to disrespect sim racing. It's awesome and a lot of fun. It's also not very cheap I've found after seeing some of the rigs you guys have. I guess the good part is you don't have a tire bill or have to pay for gas to get to the track! When I've got an extra $5k to drop, I might join you guys.

[DAD]

I guess that means I ain't going to do too good with my old roller-ball?

How about some more info and maybe a few pics? Today is a learning day for me!!

Honest Dad himself

[KJHolley]

Originally Posted by Wayne Davis KJ and all the rest...DAMN IT MAN can you not open your eyes and see!! Chevrolet has the Corvette @ 100 grand and the Cobalt @ under 20 grand or they even have the BASE Camaro @ 25 grand or the SS(super sport) @ 40 grand WHAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE?????? They are all Chevrolets

So Wayne,

Let's say you're going to buy a car, The pictures shows a Corvette but when you get there, it's a Cobalt.. Are you still going to buy it because it's a "Chevy?"

[DAD]

HK

Unless USAC or PowrI is on the Description of the race just don't go. Watch out up on the East cost also, I think USAC may have also slipped a ringer class in up there also. Hope you don't live up close to Angel Park, because that will require a ride for most races. Badger getting out of the high priced spread too. I think they might have a couple of really good Midget races still on the schedule but they will cost you a little more probably.

Honest Dad himself

[apexin]

Originally Posted by DAD I guess that means I ain't going to do too good with my old roller-ball? How about some more info and maybe a few pics? Today is a learning day for me!! Honest Dad himself

This is similar (minus all the flight controls) to the one a friend of mine has that was into iracing. He told me his wife almost divorced him over the time he would spend racing and setting up the cars. I could be wrong, but he said he had almost $5k into the entire deal which included the computer and monitors. I did run practice at MIS in a Nascar truck and it was really cool.

[bsmith8]

Originally Posted by DAD B If you are young enough maybe we can get you out of that chair. I love mine but given the chance to go racing or sit in this chair and bang at these Keys I'll take racing every time. We race with the midgets at Montpelier (in fact I participated in their first organizational meeting). We manage to out race quite a few of the full Midgets with our sub midget race car. As a sim racer the chance of you getting into a full Midget or 410 Sprint is slim to none. The prospect of getting a sub Midget car is very promising. I have seen good race ready race cars sell for less than $5000.00. Not cheap but this number is achievable. Unfortunately wealth is wasted on the old people. No problem we accept older guys living out their dream all the time and welcome them into the Fraternity of Racers. We race because we LOVE it. If you LOVE it lets work on getting you into a sub prime Midget. Do you learn how to back peddle in sim racing? Can you feel the car getting up against the cushion and driving off of it. Do you ever run into a big old hole or rut? We do all that stuff and love doing it, you probably could also with just a little effort. Another thing that would help a lot is if the race track owners would invest in making smaller and wider race tracks. The added action would only increase the crowd size. They will all be standing the entire race so they wouldn't need seats. Honest Dad himself

Dad I am willing to bet you I have won more races at Montpilier than you. I have won there in TQ Midgets not a full Midget (AJ Felker was my owner and crew chief). I have won there in a wing and non wing 360 sprint car (Notice I put 360 in front of sprint car). As for never getting in a full blown Midget i have actually competed in one a couple of hundred times on dirt and Pavement (actually have 1 win). As for never getting close to a 410 sprint car check out the 1994 Usac year book. I have a little 410 experience on pavement and dirt as well with or without a wing ( have won a few of them also but they were not USAC). And to the guy posting on here I was dense maybe . To the guy that said It was easy to have balls posting on here. My question to him is how many laps have you made in a sprint car or midget at tracks a 1/2 or bigger. How many laps have you made at Salem and Winchester in under 16 seconds or how many times you ran Eldora with or without a wing ? Good luck to all at Duqoin and Florida and be safe 🍻

[DAD]

apex

That THING is neat.

Another thing I have noticed about any racer in general. They start out racing with a $29.95 Radio Shack controller and before long they are racing a $2.99 Million NASA designed and NASCAR approved simulator.

How many more steps up until you get shakers for the seat and articulated cylinders to flip you upside down you when you screw up and jump a wheel?

That rig you have pictured cost almost as much as our race car.

Honest Dad himself