Twin Cities turns cars away!

4/27/08, 2:55 AM

I know its not SC but we arrived a bit late after running at Brownstown with 4 crate cars and the told us "there is no ******* way you are racing here tonight. They only had 15 crates and we would have made it 19 all asking nothing more than to pay our money and start the tail of the feature but they sent us packing. Thanks TC!:thumbsdown:

1021gpa · 4/27/08, 7:46 AM

dont meen to start anything here but if you were gonna run and not take any money for running the feature yeah i say they done you wrong but if you expected to run and get paid for the feature then they had a point what if one of you had won the feature and took the $750 away from someone who had been there all night would that have been right? just curious why you didnt go to twin cities first anyway? brownstown must have not had very many cars as i was heading home to seymour anout 10:45 alot of cars heading home towards north vernon

Dwight Clock · 4/27/08, 8:18 AM

In over 50 years of attending races I have never heard of a track that would allow cars that competed at another track and finished early to compete there. It is simply bad business. I have seen that attempted on Long Island and in N.J., PA, and upstate N.Y. In each and every case the cars were turned away. Back in the 60's we did have the Thompson to Utica-Rome express on Sundays but that was a day show vs. a night show with a five hour haul in between.

4/27/08, 8:23 AM

DC they use to do that at Kokomo all the time back in the Lipkey days. Guy's would run Eldora when they use to have afternoon races and end up at Kokomo for the evening races. Kinser did it a few times.

Dwight Clock · 4/27/08, 8:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Kidd

DC they use to do that at Kokomo all the time back in the Lipkey days. Guy's would run Eldora when they use to have afternoon races and end up at Kokomo for the evening races. Kinser did it a few times.

Joe, again that is an afternoon show vs. an evening show. Not two competing evening races.

Mudclodbob · 4/27/08, 9:04 AM

Not sprint cars but, Rick Stoudt, who was very high in national IMCA modified points used to run Michigan's I-96 Speedway Saturday night (and usually won) get his money then beat feet north to Crystal Raceway to run the mod feature. This used to happen all the time at tracks here.

Supermods did that a lot also.

4/27/08, 11:22 AM

we have 2 young drivers that need seat time and that was the ONLY reason why we attempted to do this. I am not sure what the big deal is of they were there all night we were not deal. We wanted to pay just like everyone else and race thats it.

Dwight Clock · 4/27/08, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shipjumper99

we have 2 young drivers that need seat time and that was the ONLY reason why we attempted to do this. I am not sure what the big deal is of they were there all night we were not deal. We wanted to pay just like everyone else and race thats it.

Not finding fault with what you tried to do. The problem, from a promoters point of view, is that you supported a competing program and were not there to support his. If he allowed that then many might do it leaving him with few or no cars to run his heats with. He's simply looking out for those teams that support him.

hoosier race fan · 4/27/08, 11:37 AM

I think the promotors probably made the right decision on this one, mostly in fairness to the other 15 teams that were there the whole night. Let's say the guys who come from Brownstown are put on the tail of the feature but finish in the top 10. What that does is take money out of the pockets of the guys who were there supporting the show the whole night and puts it in the pockets of guys who were over supporting a competing track earlier in the night. I think it would help to look at it from the perspective of the other competitors who were there all night. Look at it like you were the one who had been there and ran your heat. Then some guy shows up, tags the tail of the feature, and maybe wrecks you on the first lap. Then it would certainly be an unpleasant situation. I think the promotors decision not to let you race was to avoid all of this. Basically they turned you away to support the people who are supporting them.

throb · 4/27/08, 11:58 AM

i was wondering why there were haulers trying to get into the pits shortly after the sprint feature was over........i thought it was odd....

4/27/08, 11:58 AM	#10 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
throb Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 888	i was wondering why there were haulers trying to get into the pits shortly after the sprint feature was over........i thought it was odd.... __________________ Rob Botts

4/27/08, 2:55 AM	#1 Twin Cities turns cars away!
shipjumper99 Posts: n/a	I know its not SC but we arrived a bit late after running at Brownstown with 4 crate cars and the told us "there is no ******* way you are racing here tonight. They only had 15 crates and we would have made it 19 all asking nothing more than to pay our money and start the tail of the feature but they sent us packing. Thanks TC!:thumbsdown:

4/27/08, 7:46 AM	#2 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
1021gpa Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 482	dont meen to start anything here but if you were gonna run and not take any money for running the feature yeah i say they done you wrong but if you expected to run and get paid for the feature then they had a point what if one of you had won the feature and took the $750 away from someone who had been there all night would that have been right? just curious why you didnt go to twin cities first anyway? brownstown must have not had very many cars as i was heading home to seymour anout 10:45 alot of cars heading home towards north vernon

4/27/08, 8:18 AM	#3 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
Dwight Clock Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,233	In over 50 years of attending races I have never heard of a track that would allow cars that competed at another track and finished early to compete there. It is simply bad business. I have seen that attempted on Long Island and in N.J., PA, and upstate N.Y. In each and every case the cars were turned away. Back in the 60's we did have the Thompson to Utica-Rome express on Sundays but that was a day show vs. a night show with a five hour haul in between.

4/27/08, 8:23 AM	#4 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
Joe Kidd Posts: n/a	DC they use to do that at Kokomo all the time back in the Lipkey days. Guy's would run Eldora when they use to have afternoon races and end up at Kokomo for the evening races. Kinser did it a few times.

4/27/08, 9:04 AM	#6 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
Mudclodbob Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 69	Not sprint cars but, Rick Stoudt, who was very high in national IMCA modified points used to run Michigan's I-96 Speedway Saturday night (and usually won) get his money then beat feet north to Crystal Raceway to run the mod feature. This used to happen all the time at tracks here. Supermods did that a lot also.

4/27/08, 11:22 AM	#7 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
shipjumper99 Posts: n/a	we have 2 young drivers that need seat time and that was the ONLY reason why we attempted to do this. I am not sure what the big deal is of they were there all night we were not deal. We wanted to pay just like everyone else and race thats it.

4/27/08, 11:37 AM	#9 Re: Twin Cities turns cars away!
hoosier race fan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 628	I think the promotors probably made the right decision on this one, mostly in fairness to the other 15 teams that were there the whole night. Let's say the guys who come from Brownstown are put on the tail of the feature but finish in the top 10. What that does is take money out of the pockets of the guys who were there supporting the show the whole night and puts it in the pockets of guys who were over supporting a competing track earlier in the night. I think it would help to look at it from the perspective of the other competitors who were there all night. Look at it like you were the one who had been there and ran your heat. Then some guy shows up, tags the tail of the feature, and maybe wrecks you on the first lap. Then it would certainly be an unpleasant situation. I think the promotors decision not to let you race was to avoid all of this. Basically they turned you away to support the people who are supporting them.