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DAVE BOOS (Offline)
  #1 3/16/14 9:33 PM
I know a lot of guys don't scale dirt cars (just block them) but I usually do just so that I have a reference point if something gets crunched I can work my way back to previous setup. My question is what cross weight % and rear weight % do those of you that also scale try to shoot for? Winged and also non-winged? Driver in car, or out of car during scaling process? Ive always scaled with driver and gear in car. I know what I always tried for with the 270 micro but that's kind of a different deal then with a lightning sprint without as much left side weight as the micros have. Thanks in advance! Dave
DAD (Offline)
  #2 3/16/14 10:03 PM
Dave

You are probably getting just a little Anal about the weight thing. If you were on asphalt, yeh maybe good Idea. I spent $2500.00 dollars on scales 20 years ago and the only time I get them out is to weigh the car. Some of our newer cars have a ton of left side weight which tends to help them out a quite a bit. Dirt is pretty dumb the weight jacker setting in the seat is much more important on dirt than your left side or cross weight numbers will be.

Use your blocks as base line maybe put about 1 to 1 1/2 turn right rear to start with and go from there. I use the ARS shocks they are the gold standard in my opinion. get with them and get some good adjustable shocks and go racing.

What kind of chassis are you running anyhow?

Honest Dad himself
DAVE BOOS (Offline)
  #3 3/16/14 10:12 PM
2012 FAB-TECH, Ive got rebound adjustable ARS on the back and rebound adjustable AFCO's on the front. Anal is my middle name, im a perfectionist to a fault sometimes (ok most of the time). Just trying to see if im in the ball park with setup.
DAD (Offline)
  #4 3/16/14 10:34 PM
Dave

My little brother an artist has a saying "Perfection is too Delicate". Dirt s a very fluid race medium. What works one lap may not work five laps later. That is why guys like Steve Kinser are so good they can adapt to the conditions. The driver is much more important in dirt racing in making those little changes in car handling.

Honest Dad himself
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DAD (Offline)
  #5 3/16/14 10:41 PM
Dave

Wow I Googled Fab Tec, and those things are expensive $180,000.00 FOR A USED ONE. They look a bit heavy. I have the same problem when I tell people I have a FSC chassis.

Is that left rear shock cockpit adjustable? We did away with wing sliders when we got the knob in the cockpit.

Honest Dad himself
DAVE BOOS (Offline)
  #6 3/17/14 10:42 AM
No are club rules prohibit **** pit adj. shocks, FABTECHS are built here in northern CO, its a beautiful car, I wish it was worth $180k id sell it today! I do have a good driver that's pretty good at driving in just about any conditions so I guess I shouldn't sweat it so much.
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jjones752 (Offline)
  #7 3/17/14 11:20 AM
When Dad talks about "the knob in the cockpit" he may not be referring to shock adjusters; car owners typically have a low opinion of their drivers, even owner/drivers like me...

Jim Jones
Midwest Thunder Speed2 Midget #97
DAD (Offline)
  #8 3/17/14 12:05 PM
Jim

No I was talking about the remote adjusting shock. It replaced about 4 non adjustable shocks and it gives the driver much more control of the race car with or without the wing as the race progresses.

Since my driver is also my son I hold him in very high regards, sure wish I could find him a high class sponsor like we used to have and better mechanic. Come to think of it I already got him a better mechanic, he took that job on about 5 or 6 years ago.

We do the best with what we have and are still having a lot of fun doing it, Who could ask for anything more.

Honest Dad himself
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jjones752 (Offline)
  #9 3/17/14 12:27 PM
Then I stand corrected; you are obviously not a graduate of the Wally Meskowski School of Driver Development...
All in jest, by the way.

Jim Jones
Midwest Thunder Speed2 Midget #97
DAD (Offline)
  #10 3/17/14 1:54 PM
Jim

I kinda of liked Bobby Knight's outlook on winning. I studied driver development under my best friend Billy Felker. He was a true Master of getting a response from his driver.

I always figured that racing was supposed to be fun, not a good trait for someone that wants to be a winner all the time. I can savor a win for a long time, and appreciate those that have to do it more often than I.

I enjoy the challenge and like the song said " Is That All There Is".

Honest Dad himself




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