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View Poll Results: If Plymouth goes DIRT what should they run weekly?
410 Non-Wing Sprints 71 66.98%
UMP Late Models 17 16.04%
Midgets 46 43.40%
UMP Sportsman / Super Stocks / Super Streets 13 12.26%
UMP Street Stocks 13 12.26%
UMP Crate Late Models 6 5.66%
600 Mini / Micro Sprints 23 21.70%
4 Cylinders Hornets / Sport Compacts 9 8.49%
Bombers 9 8.49%
360 Winged Sprints 9 8.49%
305 Winged Sprints 6 5.66%
Thunder Cars 8 7.55%
UMP Modifieds 27 25.47%
TQ Midgets 15 14.15%
1200cc / 1000cc Mini Sprints 22 20.75%
6 Cylinder Class of some type 5 4.72%
410 Winged Sprints 12 11.32%
Hobby Stocks 6 5.66%
Old Times Class - Race Cars from the past with rules so cars are equal. 6 5.66%
Track has 1 or 2 classes completely their own - Rules 2 1.89%
602 crate sprints 4 3.77%
360 Non-Wing Sprints 8 7.55%
600cc Non-Wing Sprints 15 14.15%
305 Non-Wing Sprints 16 15.09%
Mini Stocks 5 4.72%
Big Block Modifiieds (Northeast) 6 5.66%
358 Modifieds (Northeast) 5 4.72%
Ct525 Spec Engine Late Models 1 0.94%
Ct525 Spec Engine Sprints 2 1.89%
Legends Cars 4 3.77%
Spectator oval drags 2 1.89%
B-Modified / UMP Limited Modifieds 2 1.89%
V8 Truck Class 1 0.94%
V6 Truck Class 1 0.94%
4 Cylinder Truck Class 1 0.94%
Steel Block / Limited Late Models 1 0.94%
604 Crate Sprints 1 0.94%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 106. You may not vote on this poll
brent21134 (Offline)
  #11 7/11/12 5:46 PM
that is what i thought it meant also.
nathans1012 (Offline)
  #12 7/11/12 5:49 PM
I think they might be able to run Bigger cars besides the Midgets if they take the asphalt up and make the 3/8's mile asphalt track a dirt track. I've seen the track as well and I think it would make one hell of a bull ring with progressive banking (18 on the bottom grove, 20 in the middle grove, and 22 on the high side). You don't see many dirt tracks with that type (progressive) of banking.

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Originally Posted by Hotshoe65s:
I'm not positive but I think the initial poster ment if they made the current (and larger) asphalt track dirt for next year.

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That's exactly what I meant.

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koolaid89 (Offline)
  #13 7/11/12 6:04 PM
Originally Posted by nathans1012:
I think they might be able to run Bigger cars besides the Midgets if they take the asphalt up and make the 3/8's mile asphalt track a dirt track. I've seen the track as well and I think it would make one hell of a bull ring with progressive banking (18 on the bottom grove, 20 in the middle grove, and 22 on the high side). You don't see many dirt tracks with that type (progressive) of banking.[COLOR="Black"]
Sounds like a whole lot of speculation. I believe Plymouth has a pretty sound asphalt program as it is.


It'd make a fine dirt track though, progressive banking sounds real snazzy but there are so many more important things to take into consideration about the configuration of the track. Different cars shine on different configurations, what's good for a UMP LM probably isn't going to be great for a TQ and so on.
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nathans1012 (Offline)
  #14 7/11/12 8:09 PM
Originally Posted by koolaid89:
Sounds like a whole lot of speculation. I believe Plymouth has a pretty sound asphalt program as it is.


It'd make a fine dirt track though, progressive banking sounds real snazzy but there are so many more important things to take into consideration about the configuration of the track. Different cars shine on different configurations, what's good for a UMP LM probably isn't going to be great for a TQ and so on.
I know. Just sick of hearing guys at Shadyhill ***** and also sick of see their bias and favoritism towards certain drivers. It's almost a JOKE anymore. I've heard a bunch of guys say if Plymouth made the big track a DIRT track they'd leave Shadyhill in a heart beat as long as the payout is there.

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Would love to see them aquire the farm that sits just to the west of the track so they could expand their pit area.

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racer-x (Offline)
  #15 7/11/12 8:20 PM
Plymouth needs one good night with out some weird weather thing hitting them to find out if a dirt track would work there.. They have got a couple black eyes this year from the rain and late arrival(Tony Stewart night) and the Heat(on the night it was 20 degrees cooler then the night before at start time).
R.Drang (Offline)
  #16 7/11/12 8:54 PM
I know i voted for Midgets, seeing as thats what i own and I'm only about an hour away from Plymouth, but i dont think a non wing 305 class would be bad either. You could bring in the Ohio 305 club(s), have them take off the wing and put on some bigger shows a couple times a year.
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Spi-nex (Offline)
  #17 7/11/12 9:12 PM
Plymouth stands in interesting territory and has a unique opportunity to make everyone happy. Too many tracks stick to the same routine weekly classes and personally, I like to see places shake things up. There is no reason why you can't have LM, Mod, Sprinters, etc on rotating schedule.

I think the bigger question is, what night would they run?
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hoosier race fan (Offline)
  #18 7/11/12 10:26 PM
Originally Posted by Spi-nex:
Plymouth stands in interesting territory and has a unique opportunity to make everyone happy. Too many tracks stick to the same routine weekly classes and personally, I like to see places shake things up. There is no reason why you can't have LM, Mod, Sprinters, etc on rotating schedule.

I think the bigger question is, what night would they run?
Run Friday and they compete with Hartford, Kankakee, and Gas City for cars. Run Saturday and they compete with Shadyhill, Butler, and Montpelier for cars. Run Sunday and they compete with Kokomo for cars. It might be in their best interest to run some classes that don't traditionally race regularly at other tracks in the area. I'm not a big advocate of pulling up the pavement track and replacing it with dirt. Their pavement program is pretty good and with car counts dwindling at the dirt tracks already operating, it may be hard to make it work as a dirt only facility. At least 1 more season with the bullring inside the paved track should give a better measure of what would be good to do with a dirt track at Plymouth.
nathans1012 (Offline)
  #19 7/11/12 11:01 PM
I think they could pull drivers from the old Crown Point Speedway that don't want to race at Shadyhill because of the b.s. they pull every week. Over the past few years Shadyhill has gotten progressively worse. Guys are fed up being treated like crap < I've seen it first hand.

I thought an "Old Timers Class" would be awesome so kids can see what a real race car used to look like before all these fancy setup became available.

Voted for (No track should have more then 7 divisions on any given night if they can run an efficient race program).
UMP Late Models
Midgets
UMP Modifieds
UMP Street Stocks
Old Timers
600cc Mini / Micro Sprints
Mini Stocks

Specials for
410 Non-Wing Sprints
Big Block Modifieds
UMP Sportsman / Super Stocks
360 Winged Sprints

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nathans1012 (Offline)
  #20 7/12/12 3:33 AM
Vote / Poll options have been updated. With so many different types of racing I figured I'd update the poll to include some other types of cars as well. Change your vote if you want.

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