I don't give a dang about no trumpet playing band, I just want the Big Cars to rock & roll.

The cars are made to run the miles its not a sprint car

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Terre Haute...Eldora. They're not miles. There's lots of tracks the big cars could run on. What would be wrong with 100 laps or even 150 laps on a high quality wide 3/8. Sure it's not traditional but it could be part of a schedule that would give the owners and drivers possibly somewhere to race. On a shorter track you could break it up at 75 laps for tires and such like they take a break at 50 laps on the mile. I'm not saying fill a series schedule with a bunch of 3/8s. It's just an idea to add to the pot. People have said why have one of these cars if they can only be raced (dirt) 5 times a season. I'm not suggesting anything here but if some owners do breakaway from USAC then what's to stop them from tearing away a bit from tradition as well and going to tracks that has never seen a SC car before. With a little creativity it shouldn't be too hard to market a SC race of 150 laps to a community that hasn't had them before. Obviously it would be positioned as a "Special Event" race which hopefully could sell all the seats. If the SC cars only went to that track once a year it would/could remain a favourite (special) event. 150 laps would click off pretty quickly on the shorter track so the fans shouldn't have to sit there too long. I don't want to argue with anyone, hell I'm not even a US citizen, I just love SC cars and I want to see them stay. It's obvious some changes need to happen before they go the way of the DODO. They could run possibly at PPMS in PA, that place seats 10,000 fans, she's real wide (90 feet) and real smooth. It'd be a good one no doubt.

Hey! You forgot the #90 driven by Johnny Heydenreich. We raced last year, and we had a top 10 finish.

The #90 wasn't there this year because Johnny is still recovering from his automobile accident. In any case, the change to ethanol didn't help things either. I got a chuckle out of the people who said all we had to do was "change some nozzles". Even as a female who is very non-mechanical, I knew there would be a lot more to it than that. Free ethanol was about as enticing as free admission to a golf tournament in a blizzard. Yawn.

Sharon
Silver Crown #90

There are many tracks out there capable of hosting silver crown events and have done so in the past.

1.) Knoxville (Hawkeye 100) --> Seems like USAC used to have a midget and sprint race out there the last couple of years and now all the sudden they arent going there. Im not gonna say whos fault that is, but to me ANY National Openwheel series should go to Knoxville. ASCS does, WOO does, why not USAC?

2.) Syracuse Mile --> They used to run there... I know there is some travel involved but it is another dirt mile option. Track hasnt been the greatest the last couple years for the big blocks but it would be worth having another mile.

3.) Las Vegas --> Again it would be another haul and a half for sure to get there, but I watched a race from when Stewart was still running and it wasnt half bad honestly

4.) Lawrenceburg --> This kind of builds on what the gentleman above said about big 3/8 being a possibility. I could totally see the crown cars at the Burg for sure. It would be a good race too. That track always seems to be in good shape.

5.) Sacramento Mile --> Again it would be a drive but maybe you could tie it in with Vegas or something to make it more worthwhile for the owners.

6.) Sedalia --> I just watched some footage of the Outlaws there and it wasnt too shabby (even for wings). This track could produce some good racing for sure.

7.) Belleville Highbanks --> I think the crown cars at this track would be AWESOME!

8.) Tulsa Fairgrounds --> I seen that they have ran here before...I think it is a 3/4 mile.

8.) Lernerville & Williams Grove --> IDK if these tracks just dont want non wing but both would produce good racing and could be tied in with Syracuse some how for travel purposes.

So in addition to Du Quoin, Springfield, Indy, Terre Haute, and Eldora there are 10 dirt tracks above that could work...there is a possibility of 15 tracks and Im sure I left some out...I think there is a half mile in Michigan too and one in Florence, KY.

On the Pavement side you already have Toledo, IRP (X2), & Iowa. In years passed they have went to a track in Michigan that slips my mind, Oswego, NY, Phoenix, and Richmond. What about Bristol or Martinsville, Milwaukee, Dover all of which are a mile or less.

Bottom line is that there are tracks out there for these cars to run on. I think a 15-20 race deal would still be little enough that each race would be an event. That is what this series needs "EVENTS" and not races.

Of course none of this matters if we cant get the cars to run 10 laps without having a water temp of 260

I like sprint cars, but let's face it, most people don't have to drive very far to see a sprint car race, and we certainly don't need USAC to see one. I went to the new BOSS series sprint car race in Mercer about 2 weeks ago, and saw one of the best non-wing sprint car shows of my life. The admission was $12, I got my Mercer "rewards" card stamped, and a few more races and I will have earned one free admission. The place was packed.

In my opinion, fans stayed away from the Hoosier 100 because of the concern about a low car count. Guess what? Low car counts = low fan attendance. Bring back owners and cars, and watch the stands get full. The change to ethanol was one more nail in the coffin to the owners and people who pay to put the entertainment on the track.

As someone said earlier, USAC owns nothing. The risk is carried by the owners, the drivers and the promoter. USAC is a sanctioning body. They are like the umpires at a baseball game. Someone needs to officiate, but they shouldn't be making the RULES for a Club without giving owners and drivers a vote or a say in how things are done. No vote = no trust. I didn't like the way the bumper cars were pushed down our throats a few years ago, and I didn't like the way Ethanol is being pushed down our throats now. I stayed away when Gold Crown was plowing the tracks, and I'm waiting this fiasco out too. I can't afford engine rebuilds in exchange for free ethanol. As a wise person once said, "There is no such thing as a free lunch."

On a separate note, my brother and I headed to Daytona International Speedway this past weekend to race in a 14-hour endurance race. This was the first Hoosier 100 I missed since 1989. There were 121 cars that started the race at Daytona, and we finished 2nd and 6th. It seems some sanctioning bodies have figured out a way to get high car counts.

Sharon
Silver Crown #90[COLOR="Black"]

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Just for informational purposes, Silver Crown ran Knoxville in 2001. There were enough cars that there was a Consi, and some teams got sent home. Silver Crown also raced in Sacramento up until about 1999 or 2000 (I think 2000 was the last race, but I can't remember for sure off the top of my head -- it was the year of the 7.3 earthquake in LA when we raced at Irwindale the following weekend). The Sacramento race was coupled with an asphalt race at Irwindale the following weekend.

Again, both races had more than 30 cars and there was a Consi at both -- many teams got sent packing at Irwiindale AND Sacramento. It was only 10 short years ago that ALL Silver Crown races had over 30+ cars and many teams got sent home. Ask me how I know? LOL!

I'd love to see them run Rolling Wheels in NY. I've seen them run the Grove. Saw a great race at Stafford Springs. They ran halfs in the 50's, check out the Grove for that. Terre Haute usually puts on one of the best shows of the year, for any car, with it's 100 lapper.

Thing is in USAC they're known as S(enior) C(itizens). Ad long as the guys on 16th street run the show , the ONLY class that will get any antention will be dirt sprint cars. Sad part is the Champ cars are a unique product, and they don't realize it.

Now thats an excellent post

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Does anyone have any access to old schedules for the Silver Crown Series?

Hartford is the MI dirt track you're thinking of and would lend itself to stellar Champ Car racing.

Berlin is the paved track in MI that they visited a year or two ago. The racing and the turnout were both terrible unfortunately.

What about pairing SC with the BB or Sportsman mods? They race on the same tracks...

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