[CTtoPA]

Like racing a $50k car to win $1400? I don't have an answer but I'm glad there are people who find it worth their while because I love it!!
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[DAD]

You can't outlaw money. The more rules you make the more expensive it gets. Your son needs needs to work on the CSHUMAN traction control system it is no doubt the best. My son calls it modulation of the throttle pedal Lynn Ambrose calls it backpeddling whatever you want to call it it is a step to becoming a race driver. Sometimes faster is slower.

[Phylo82]

Originally Posted by CTtoPA Like racing a $50k car to win $1400? I don't have an answer but I'm glad there are people who find it worth their while because I love it!! Posted using Mobile Device

In this economy those numbers are getting smaller and smaller. Your average small business is struggling to survive much less have the cash to sponsor a race team.

The current state of the economy and $4/gal gas has lead to miserable car counts.

Unfortunately I don't see that changing for the next 18 to 24 months.

[Jonr]

There has only been one time that I thought that I could really hear a car with traction control. I was seating close to turn four, and the car sounded horrible coming off the turn but by the flag stand it was clear. By the end of the straight it was great. Every lap, it had the same pattern, but the sound coming off the turn was different each lap. Sometimes it sounded really rough. Sometimes it almost seemed normal. However, it always had power coming out of the turn.

It is possible that the driver was having some mechanical issue, and I was just being over creative. However, I really believe he had it in his car.

Odds are that he didn't, but I have seen dozens more with it that I never noticed.

[65 Push Truck]

Racing has never made "financial sense" anyway in my opinion. From go karts to F1 it isn't going to be a money making business, you just have to love it. Some are willing to spend anything to get an edge, especially in these days of nearly equal equipment. Like last night at TSS with 17 cars @ probably 10 or so with legitimate equipment to win. Reminds me of a go kart racer several years ago. They had a crew cab dually, lowered with custom wheels, 24 ft enclosed air conditioned trailer, 2 custom painted karts, about 50 wheels/tires, 3or4 motors, 3or4 custom driver suits @ 2or3 custom Simpson helmets. This kid ran Jr. Karts, unbelievable. Probably a $75,000 investment to run JR. KARTS on a dirt track for trophies.
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[Hurryinhoosier]

They only sputter or sound weird when you get greedy and take out too much timing...dont get greedy and it will sound just like it should and that is an easily applied throttle.

[Bill Gardner]

That was very creative way of saying the secret cshuman device is a good foot.
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Originally Posted by Phylo82 In this economy those numbers are getting smaller and smaller. Your average small business is struggling to survive much less have the cash to sponsor a race team. The current state of the economy and $4/gal gas has lead to miserable car counts. Unfortunately I don't see that changing for the next 18 to 24 months.

That sucks you live in Ohio because I haven't seen a 'miserable' car count at an Indiana dirt track in years......

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Originally Posted by CTtoPA Like racing a $50k car to win $1400? I don't have an answer but I'm glad there are people who find it worth their while because I love it!! Posted using Mobile Device

I heard the annual write off for that is around $5500. Marion County biz is at least from what I understand. It's quality advertising, though so it's worth it in some markets.

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Originally Posted by Jrp4554 How could someone tech a car if you suspected that they had traction control? Is it possible? Just wondering.

Traction control? LOL! Well you can usually tell by looking cause it'll have a big wing on top.

[DAD]

You know i've known quite a few of these rich racers and the only thing I know for sure is they enjoy racing as much as we do they can just do it with more style. These guys are good people that love racing, when things look bad and you need a part don't be afraid to see if they have a spare most probably do and would be glad to get you back in the race Don't judge a book by it's cover.

[TQ29m]

It is true, all the good "traction controls" retards the timing, in relation to "spinup", and is unnoticed outside the car. Mine has 4 timing curves, and doesn't cost 4k, it's built in the ign module, and is programable with a laptop, or netbook. For under $400.00 you get everything but the spark plugs, or you can buy it with a "recommended" set of curves, for less money, and send it back to have them changed. This is not for factory ign, but does work in conjunction with what Ambrose refers to. Bob