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Kody - your information and responses are a class act! I have no skin in the game but very much appreciate a DATA driven discussion of the issue.

Can't wait to see you, Jordan and Tanner on the Michigan swing for Must See!

I also don't have a dog in this fight, but I certainly appreciate the very informative and well thought out responses that Kody has provided. I guess being fed with a silver spoon makes the words flow better. Thanks Kody for reporting facts and not assumptions.

If my eyes aren't watering how will I know I'm at the races???

steiny
crewman SC#43

Thanks, Kody, for all the info. I think there is some positives from the ethanol switch. I know I may be goofy, but I love those big tail tanks on the silver crown cars. To me it's like admiring a beautiful woman, those wonderful curves. I'd hate to lose that. I realize, though, that my wants aren't always what's best for the sport. Good luck to you this year, Kody.

I am a big fan of Silver Crown racing, especially on the dirt miles. And I definitely appreciate the history behind it. I don’t see how anyone can be a fan and not see the history. And I would sell my left you-know–what to drive one.

I don’t see how getting a little better fuel mileage is going to hurt the sport. I don’t see the Silver Crown cars suddenly going to midget tanks (or even 33 gallon sprint car tanks). The mileage is only going to be 10-15% better.

When this started up a few weeks ago, I wanted to step in and make a few comments, but because of all the negativity, I decided not to. But now that some actual facts have come to light, I’ll add to it.

A few years ago, there were some sprints cars running on Ethanol (I think it was out in Knoxville, but I’m not sure). I had someone talking to me about supplying me with free ethanol for the year if I would run it. I talked to one local engine builder that I knew had built a motor for ethanol. I’m not going to tell you his name because I don’t want to drag him into this.

He told me that it only took them about an hour on the Dyno to figure it all out. He told me they used all the current fuel system, just changed the pill and the high speed settings. He did say it put out about 10% less horse power.

The deal ended up falling through, but not because of performance. I would run it today in my sprint car, especially if everyone else was running it also.

I’m sure most (if not all) Silver Crown owners Dyno their motor, and yes, it may take a little extra time at first, but with the overall cost of running a Silver Crown car , I can’t believe it would be a big deal.


Tom Paterson
(Someone who has never even seen a silver spoon)

Lets hope management does whats right for the racers or it will be a quick death. There are approximately 75 dirt cars out there, havent heard anyone saying," hey , I believe I'll just bring my car out this year" . Im just worried that we have funneled the amount of cars capable of showing up in half from what we had.

We focused on fixing the wrong problem. Im scared we temporarily saved usac but permanently eliminated racers, time will tell what true changes will be. A guarantee no less change than fuel system and potential for much more

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I dont mean to sound so critical of usac because I enjoy racing with them but its too touch and go to tippy toe around about it.
Show us how you will promote the series and bring it back to 90's fame. Not how to keep it alive one more year

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Not only that, but they had to tie a pork chop around his neck just to get the dog to lick his face.

Hey no problem, I'm happy to share some information in a subject surrounded by rumors. I am very much a fan of the Silver Crown tail tanks, and am happy to let you know that losing that look will not be an issue. I have attached a photo clip of the USAC rule book for this year- stating that tail tanks must exceed the 59 gallon minimum size.


Thank you very much for sharing on this thread. As far as tank size, the 2012 USAC rule will prevent any tanks smaller than the 59 gal. minimum, so no % of better fuel mileage can warrant a midget/sprint tank, it'd be illegal.

I very much appreciate you sharing about your experience (and your engine builders). I hope that brings owners currently facing the switch a little more confidence about what the real costs will be. I do understand that additional dyno time will be additional cost, but I think the biggest fear up until now has been the complete unknown factor of what this change will really require. Your post definitely helps describe the changes that you had to make in your experience with a potential switch to ethanol, and I thank you for sharing!


Shane, I share some of the same fears. That is why I hope sharing some of this information will allow owners insight into the details of this change, and hopefully keep them interested in returning to the series this year. I really think that if the efforts being made by Ignite are managed correctly, and are managed to benefit the competitors of the Silver Crown series and not the sanctioning body, then things can begin to move forward. However, that is something that remains unknown- what USAC will do. While it has been announced about the fuel being provided free for next year, it would be great for USAC to shed some light on any additional benefits for next year, and if any of those benefits will be seen in the years beyond 2012.

Leave the attacks at home, dude. I am impressed you posted the results of the test for everyone, Kody. Your main hope is USAC communicates with the owners the upside of switching to Ignite. I have run with USAC since 1989 and they don't communicate too well except when they want money for membership renewal. We have not decided what we will do with our champ cars this year, so I guess we are in the wait and see group.