"The American drivers are spanking the foreign drivers up and down the ladder series! From USf2000, Star Mazda and FIL. unfortunately it stops there ."


Exactly! It stops there because it's an effin' car club!! Of course the American drivers are spanking them because they've got old fashioned dirt sprint experience. These poor kids got sucked into this ladder ******** and now the blind are leading the blind. Thank you so much Target, Roger Penske, Verizon, and IZOD for ******* up the sport I love. I love it when you come to Indianapolis and spend your money, but other than that, you can take your ******** class of this 'rich man's sport' and shove it up your ass. I wish the people of Indianapolis could sue Penske for stealing the name "Indy"car. This garbage has NOTHING to do with Indianapolis or Indiana anymore. "Road to Indy" my ass! It's the "Road to Car Club Spec Racing Hell"

[cecil98]

Deannalynn........my sentiments exactly!!!!!.....I love you!!!!!!!

[illinisprintfan]

Originally Posted by deannalynn "The American drivers are spanking the foreign drivers up and down the ladder series! From USf2000, Star Mazda and FIL. unfortunately it stops there ." Exactly! It stops there because it's an effin' car club!! Of course the American drivers are spanking them because they've got old fashioned dirt sprint experience. These poor kids got sucked into this ladder ******** and now the blind are leading the blind. Thank you so much Target, Roger Penske, Verizon, and IZOD for ******* up the sport I love. I love it when you come to Indianapolis and spend your money, but other than that, you can take your ******** class of this 'rich man's sport' and shove it up your ass. I wish the people of Indianapolis could sue Penske for stealing the name "Indy"car. This garbage has NOTHING to do with Indianapolis or Indiana anymore. "Road to Indy" my ass! It's the "Road to Car Club Spec Racing Hell"

Quit holding back. Tell us how you really feel.

Originally Posted by illinisprintfan Quit holding back. Tell us how you really feel.

I posted the following in another forum, where some Linda Willareth chic claims to work down the hall from RB. This is not an anti-RB rant. I love everything about racing, even the circus aspect, which RB seems pretty good at. :


Wow. I never thought I'd see the day where fenders would rule the racing world. In creating this ladder bologna, all that happened was that Indycar became a stepping stone to get to NASCAR. Do me a favor, Linda, will ya? Can you go knock on RB's door and ask him to scrap this recent 'ladders' garbage? Any sponsors who wanna ride the coattails of the next Tony Stewart need to go down the street to the USAC office. That's where you find your American drivers. With or without the cameras broadcasting, USAC circle track racing has always been the gold standard proving ground for young talent. Your die hard racers and fans who helped build this proving ground see the ladders as a glorified car club and don't give a rat's ass about who's running in it American or otherwise. I love RBs promotional skills, but he needs a quality product to promote. To get that quality back, Indy needs to get back to the basics.

wish you'd show some passion once in a while deannalynn....lol I went back to Indy for time trials this year, first time I had been there since they started shutting out real racers again (about the same time Penske and "Cheap" Gannassi came back) and to be honest didn't even know most of the teams and drivers. Had to use a fan guide as did the other 3 with me, 3 of us are HUGE race fans, the 4th was my dad who likes fishing alot more than racing...lol To be honest if I had not been given 8 free tickets I wouldn't have went.........

I'd love to find out how I can transition my passion into a job. I'd like to think that life in a trailer with no curtains wasn't all for nothing. My parents moved to Indy in 1980 because this was the place to be for racers. We sacrificed things like cars, curtains, vacations, and more for sprint cars 'cause racing was all they wanted to do (until about 1990). The closest my dad ever got to an Indy car was fueling for Spike Gilhausen at Pocono, whoopdy friggin do. I'd like to think it wasn't all for nothing, though. They say everything happens for a reason. Right now I'm pretty much a loose cannon and hoping someone out there can steer me in the right direction. I know there are people that leave the sport every day when they finally run out of money, forever doomed to 'other side' of the gate. I wonder if somebody would read a book about those guys. I could call it "A 101 Ways to Fail at Racing". Any takers? lol! I type 50 wpm and have a Bachelor's Degree. I have all my shots and I don't bite (very hard). I'm a medical laboratory technician by trade, but better suited for writing.

[darnall]

Originally Posted by deannalynn I'd love to find out how I can transition my passion into a job. I'd like to think that life in a trailer with no curtains wasn't all for nothing. My parents moved to Indy in 1980 because this was the place to be for racers. We sacrificed things like cars, curtains, vacations, and more for sprint cars 'cause racing was all they wanted to do (until about 1990). The closest my dad ever got to an Indy car was fueling for Spike Gilhausen at Pocono, whoopdy friggin do. I'd like to think it wasn't all for nothing, though. They say everything happens for a reason. Right now I'm pretty much a loose cannon and hoping someone out there can steer me in the right direction. I know there are people that leave the sport every day when they finally run out of money, forever doomed to 'other side' of the gate. I wonder if somebody would read a book about those guys. I could call it "A 101 Ways to Fail at Racing". Any takers? lol! I type 50 wpm and have a Bachelor's Degree. I have all my shots and I don't bite (very hard). I'm a medical laboratory technician by trade, but better suited for writing.

Hell yes I would read that book....better yet, I could star in that book. I still haven't given up yet, but I have decided that unless one of these powerball tickets hits good I'm probably about done with the driving aspect of racing. Can't afford to keep a car running after 5 years of fighting with the midget I own now. I have driven for several owners trying to sell their cars..In fact I have performed myself out of more rides than I care to count. I have 3 wins and several podiums in less than 40 sprint/midget starts, I have only torn up a shock and 2 radius rods. Thought thats what car owners wanted...hahaha..I kinda have a reputation that if your car won't sell I can give a good enough run to convince someone to buy it....just not enough people around here selling cars for me to have any rides available lately..hahaha

Let me know if you need a chapter for your book... I would be more than happy to tell my "how not to become a racedriver" story..

Heck, maybe we could sell enough copies that I could buy an engine...hahaha


And I completely feel how you feel regarding the ladder system...Everybody on this website knows that guys like Stanbrough, Darland, East, Kevin Swindell, Dave Steele, etc etc should be in a seat in the Indycar series but unfortunately their uncles don't own a huge Brazilian corporation to fund a team so I guess we should all just hope and pray that Clauson can impress enough people to take one more step up that ladder without having to bring millions of dollars to a second tier team.

And now I'm cracking up about this Josef Newgarden kid. Is it true he doesn't have any dirt track experience? Wont that make him the next Danica Patrick? If they keep grooming karters for Indy, why will anybody bother looking at coming to Indiana for racing experience? Our tracks wont be littered with broken dreams of Indy anymore. I don't know, maybe this is a good thing?

On the other hand, the Indianapolis 500 is still an oval track race....... for now.......

[openwheelKT]

Originally Posted by deannalynn And now I'm cracking up about this Josef Newgarden kid. Is it true he doesn't have any dirt track experience? Wont that make him the next Danica Patrick? If they keep grooming karters for Indy, why will anybody bother looking at coming to Indiana for racing experience? Our tracks wont be littered with broken dreams of Indy anymore. I don't know, maybe this is a good thing?

So the only way to learn how to drive is by running dirt? Sorry, can’t take it that far. Hornish was a pretty damn good IndyCar driver without dirt experience. The key to me isn’t that they ALL drive dirt, it’s that the ones that do come up that way have a shot too. The main thing for Americans coming up is that they need help in getting in the door. They are working to take some of those barriers down (going to be hard to do). Hopefully at some point, teams can attract their own sponsorship again and then hire on talent. That’s the issue. Newgarden is an American so I’d like to see him do well (I’d like see BC beat him b/c I see him race all the time). Not all drivers have to come from dirt. Way back when that was the only way to do it.

Honesly, I don’t want drivers ONLY coming to IN for racing experience to move on. I want those racing here, because they love sprint cars, to in-turn get a chance.

Originally Posted by openwheelKT So the only way to learn how to drive is by running dirt? Sorry, can’t take it that far. Hornish was a pretty damn good IndyCar driver without dirt experience. The key to me isn’t that they ALL drive dirt, it’s that the ones that do come up that way have a shot too. The main thing for Americans coming up is that they need help in getting in the door. They are working to take some of those barriers down (going to be hard to do). Hopefully at some point, teams can attract their own sponsorship again and then hire on talent. That’s the issue. Newgarden is an American so I’d like to see him do well (I’d like see BC beat him b/c I see him race all the time). Not all drivers have to come from dirt. Way back when that was the only way to do it. Honesly, I don’t want drivers ONLY coming to IN for racing experience to move on. I want those racing here, because they love sprint cars, to in-turn get a chance.

Yeah, the more I learn about the current state of racing, the less I'm worried about our dirt tracks. The loss of Warsaw still saddens me. I added to my last post that the Indy 500 is still an oval for now, so oval track experience still counts for something. I think I'll stop worrying so much about whether people are going to want to come here and just be happy that I am where I am and can see a great show in Indiana just about any night of the week (barring rain). I'll probably be much more happy quiet on here by adopting a more selfish attitude I need to get busy finding other chics to race me and cars for the powder puff races, anyway

Thanks for setting me straight, IOW!!! I am grateful to Bill Gardner every time I login for making this forum and keeping it awesome!

I'm gradually accepting the fact that our old star making machine that spit out Stewart, Kahne, Gordon, Newman to make a few is now just an artifact. Remember what Indiana Jones used to say about artifacts? "It belongs in a museum!"