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7/28/15, 2:02 PM   #1
Hurting or helping NW Racing in IN?
Charles Nungester
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To the casual fan, It might not appear that something is wrong, I don't know the all the reasons behind it, Or a total fix for it.

But why is it that sometimes up to 7 tracks within 150 miles of Indy are running Saturday nights only? With more and more trying to put a race up against em all.

Granted over half the fans at each track normally are locals but low counts don't encourage anyone to travel to tracks thinking that there won't even be two full heats worth of cars.

Thats not all that bothers me. Some drivers or teams (Sometimes both) and drivers are throwing on the wing where they have the option of three or four nights of racing a week. Why?

A. Driver is often running for half his position finish pay or less and needs more than one night,

B, Sponsor wants name at more than just one track with the same 800 local fans every week.

C, Team or Driver may not ever have been very good at the only Fri or Sun and sometimes NO tracks that run those nights.

D, Saturday Tracks that have worked a long time to setup a event no longer deem it worthy to make it a big payday or have event Tee Shirts knowing the car count won't be great and possibly fan count diluted.

I know there are logistics to fri and sun racing that often don't apply to Saturday both for tracks and teams. But a quick run program with good car counts can be successful.

I wrote this as more of a blog post, But wonder what others think about it. I think there is enough Saturdays that tracks could work together not to interfear so much in anothers special.

I also think there are enough off nights that non sprint tracks can schedule shows. I also think it hurts the car counts worse come August when some teams are down motors or chassis and need a couple weeks or more to get back. But more tracks are running.

ALL IN ONE NIGHT.

Your thoughts? It isn't meant to be a negative post, But a betterment of the sport for all, Racers and Fans alike.
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7/28/15, 4:13 PM   #2
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All you have to do is get one to switch if they are unhappy, but Fridays and Sundays are tough to promote. Reading between the lines, I agree that Saturday shows this weekend could be a little thin everywhere. I think you will be OK at the Burg, because BOSS has a pretty good following. I stand by my prediction, and it is exactly what happened last weekend. The lower the payoff, the higher the car count.
 
7/28/15, 5:22 PM   #3
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All you have to do is get one to switch if they are unhappy, but Fridays and Sundays are tough to promote. Reading between the lines, I agree that Saturday shows this weekend could be a little thin everywhere. I think you will be OK at the Burg, because BOSS has a pretty good following. I stand by my prediction, and it is exactly what happened last weekend. The lower the payoff, the higher the car count.
I wasn't talking simply this weekend or LBurg for sure although it is home. But I agree. They will run away from the money show. This happens several times over the summer. Aug 15th SEVEN TRACKS

Yet 40 will show up 20 getting 100 at one track no even recouping pit fees and another track has 9 positions unfilled paying no less than 225?
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7/28/15, 5:32 PM   #4
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Let alone that 1 track in Ohio who steals some fellas every now & again.

I was ready to cheer on Josh Spencer but I guess it was too many classes.
 
7/28/15, 5:51 PM   #5
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Its cost vs reward. Where do all the car owner/ driver live? I am lucky because I am within an hour of LPS, Bloomington, Paragon, TH. why would I spend another $150 in fuel to travel 3 hours for $225 to Start when I'm guaranteed $100 just to show up at most tracks within an hour. That puts me $ ahead. Instead of paying let's say $225-250 to start why not pay $175 to start and up the non qualifier pay from $100 to $150. That offsets a lot of fuel and should improve car count significantly.
 
7/28/15, 6:30 PM   #6
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We had heard there was going to be 7 classes running Plymouth we tried to confirm but got no response. Josh daughter had a soccer game in Indy and checking the weather decided it was best to stay home and get ready for Kokomo. We would run a Friday and Saturday on this side of Indy if they ran. We like Plymouth and Mountpellior. Friday with our work schedule it is impossible to make the southern tracks.

Sprintcar fanatic thank you for your support.

I think the O'Connors have us spoiled as they do all there fans, they can have you on the road most times before dark, that means a lot when you have a life away from the track. I can tell you right now people that used to stay home on Sunday goes to Kokomo because they know unless something happens they will be on the road at a decent hour. A little off subject but it had to be said.

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7/28/15, 6:43 PM   #7
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I think Waynesfield and in some cases Paragon are actually good although I always remember Paragon being a Sunday track.

Waynesfield is 90% Lima, Brookville, Piqua, Sydney, Findlay, Fostoria etc who choose to run Non Wing. It actually helps all the tracks at some point. They chose to start up and stick with it at first being every other week then weekly. They hold a couple specials. The Hewitt and the Harvest of sprints. One which is against nobody and buts up to the Sprintacular at Eldora. Anyone wanna try for Sunday after? Still might be 40 of the sixty that show up could do sunday.

Nobody does the Saturday after the Klash? etc. Work together or with and succeed.
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7/28/15, 6:57 PM   #8
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Is the harvest of sprints on there schedule this year?
 
7/28/15, 7:07 PM   #9
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Is the harvest of sprints on there schedule this year?
I don't see it. hmmm
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7/28/15, 7:20 PM   #10
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Its cost vs reward. Where do all the car owner/ driver live? I am lucky because I am within an hour of LPS, Bloomington, Paragon, TH. why would I spend another $150 in fuel to travel 3 hours for $225 to Start when I'm guaranteed $100 just to show up at most tracks within an hour. That puts me $ ahead. Instead of paying let's say $225-250 to start why not pay $175 to start and up the non qualifier pay from $100 to $150. That offsets a lot of fuel and should improve car count significantly.
Well the track Im talking about specifically has said he'll start 23 if that's all that shows up 20th-23rd gets 225

And at a show earlier this year he started 27 and paid 225.

I know some don't want to travel but I know a couple that pass three other tracks to get here.

Go with what works for you. Im just saying more than four or five tracks just makes everyone's show less appealing. One track might have 50 and have trouble covering the guaranteed tow added to the purse and the next track has 10-15
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