Scott, I'm going to disagree with you on this one. Even when teams owned and controlled the engines, they bought them from the cottage engine builders such as Speedway, Roush etc. The engines were under $150K, and the racing was fantastic. You had teams like Treadway, Blair, Curb, Cheever, Foyt, Nunn etc. that were very competitive. Enter Honda and Toyota with their leases and "favored" teams and most of these guys folded up shop and the racing isn't nearly as good as it was in the early 2000's. Now, between the two warring series we barely have 20 cars to run the whole circuit and basically only two or three teams that have any realistic chance of winning a race. Tony had a great affordable formula and he sold his soul to Honda and Toyota thinking they would be great marketing partners. How did that work out for him? Does anyone ever remember seeing a commercial on prime time network and cable TV acknowledging their affiliation with Indy Car racing? I can't think of one.