That is why I didn't mention "drivers". - The teams those guys were driving for 30 / (I'll say "plus" since Vogler sadly wasn't here in 1994; and Jeff was out of midgets, but I get what you are saying) 30plus years ago were mainly one car, sometimes expanding to two car teams. Rollie had a great operation; but what were the details behind the scenes? Sure Lewis had Bob East, but what kind of operation was Ralph Potters (a good one, that I know, but were people employed to primarily look after that car)? I gathered Vogler did much of the crew work himself, but did he have paid help too? Wilke's, Gamester's, and Streicher's appeared to be family run teams that usually just had the one and sometimes two cars out there. Was there ever a time when there was this many multiple car teams that appear to have full time crew members on them? Sure, in the later 90s you had Lewis expanding, Pete W came in with Kunz, CED team, etc; though; but, was there ever this much OEM style "support" (on whatever level this TRD deal really is)? Suppose Ford with Lewis possibly?