So, I have not listened to either podcast, but we have talked about the Outlaws product on this message board many times. They have the stars. They don't go to the same tracks over and over. If you want to see their product, you have to go to their show. I don't see any of that changing. Brad Sweet is not the first driver to get fatigued with the schedule. However, at the end of the day, if you want to make the most money available, you have to run the WOO Sprint car series. I will bet an adult beverage that Brad will be back full time with the outlaws.