Once a guy takes the wing off you guys claim him, so it's a no win situation for the wing crowd. Kyle, came from wing cars, got in a NW car, kicked ass; Rico, came from winged cars, got in a NW, kicked ass; Christopher Bell, came from wing cars, took wing off, kicked ass. Stevie Smith, took wing off for the first time and ran 2nd to Jac (wing racer) in the biggest Non wing race ever. Just because you're not paying attention to what happens in winged racing, doesn't mean that a guys career started when he got into a midget in Indiana for the first time.