Thank you Riskybrisky5. that does make thing's much better.. and yes Jerry, we don't want anything handed to use.. but it's hard to race these day's and not get some return. I love to watch my son run with the best.. and he injoy's it to... when you bet them you know your doing well. My son can drive just need's the seat time.... ( and a good set up man)it make's me want to look at USAC more... thank you all.