Jim, I have to map things out a bit but our group comes from the shadows of Chicago, so the golf outing isn't exactly on our way home. Ironically we have our own little golf excursion every year as part of our 4crown adventure. We set up shop in Portland and either play there or up the road in Geneva. Truth be told, I am a horrible golfer, but do like to play once in awhile, and would love to join you guys sometime.