[revjimk]

Originally Posted by Aces&Eights First, I never mentioned ********. Second, some of what you say is true, some not. Third, I will never hate the confederacy, slavery is a separate issue and is disgusting. I’m gonna drop some truth on you, only 16% of southerners owned slaves, 84% did not. The south represented 30% of the US population, but paid 80% of the taxes. The rights of the states were at the heart of the reason for sesession because we were being financially abused. Now was segregation ugly and reprehensible? YES. My father still instinctively thinks in segregationary ways, but he’s from that generation, I am not. They say the winners get to write history and that’s true, but that doesn’t make it all true. While you lived here for a time, it’s not exactly the same as being from here. My family has been here since the late 1700’s, I am the third and named after a governor of Georgia from the mid 1800’s, my cousin was Secretary of State and his statue is at the base of Stone Mountain. I only mention all that to show how deep my roots run here, but that doesn’t mean I condone everything that’s ever happened. The media, public education and many ill informed celebrities like to link Confederacy and Slavery like they were one in the same, they were not. As morally high as it sounds to say the north fought for freedom of the slaves, it just isn’t true. The slavery angle came later when enthusiasm for the war in the north was weaning. Bottom line Confedracy isn’t a replacement word for slavery. I’m not angry with you, I understand why you feel the way you do, I’m sure you saw some ugly stuff while you were here, I have to, but like the numbers I listed not everyone here is full of hate and racism. The south still wears the stain of racism, but I see more of it up north and on the west coast than I do here daily. As to Nascar, it was born here, the same way Indy car was born in Indiana, but like I said earlier the flag deal was just one more thing in the move to separate itself from its base. It won’t bother me to see NASCAR crumble, they chose to leave the loyal and grass roots could use the sponsor dollars. I’m not mad with you and I hope you aren’t mad with me.

A) "only 16% of southerners owned slaves, 84% did not" True. But the 84% were foolish enough to take up arms against their fellow Americans & US government to protect interests of slave owners (B) " While you lived here for a time, it’s not exactly the same as being from here"... thats for damn sure, & they let me know it. I was a "Yankee N&%$ lover" (C) "As morally high as it sounds to say the north fought for freedom of the slaves, it just isn’t true" False. The actual issue of 1860 ******** was whether slavery would be extended into new territories in the West. Lincoln was against slavery, but knew it was politically impossible to ban it in the South. He took a firm stand against it spreading West. As soon as he was elected, Southern states started to secede, knowing that free states in the West would eventually lead to an anti-slavery majority in Congress. THEY assaulted Ft. Sumter, & it didn't work out too well for them, did it?
One more quote coming, then lets drop the subject...OK?