Just didn't understand what you meant. I will be honest I think the lower car counts have more to do with dividing things into more classes 305, 360, 410 than any sanctioning body. There are less of what are now 410 cars than there used to be. Charles talks of the lack of passing at Mansfield, and it was unsanctioned. As for the formats at Knoxville and the King's Royal, both tracks run their own format, not the Outlaws format.