I've been to plenty of non wing races, was going to Kokomo long before they changed it, same with the burg, I prefer the the old versions in both cases. I would have loved to been at Knoxville for those days. The closest thing around here to that atmosphere is the Kings Royal and its a far cry form Knoxville. I'm not trying to get into pissing match on here but we need a marquee event that draws large numbers of cars from out of state, that involves the local community, that they can get behind and support. There's a reason we keep loosing drivers to winged cars, more money and more races.