thanks cj. my opinion is I don't care if its Gilpin or dave darland it should absolutely be banned from short track racing, especially dirt. and dad I get your point on steering with your feet on dirt, and that only validates my point. it should be the driver only that regulates traction control once the car hits the track. I want to see the driver hook his car up not a mechanical or electronic device. after all, racing is about running your car to the edge, the edge of hooking it up and going to the front, or busting it loose and backing up. I want to see the driver do this, not a traction control device