great observations mr chasis. I hate the whole wing non-wing debate. it's still sprint cars! I agree with your thoughts on watching stock cars, I mean after all isn't stock car and race car a contradiction of terms? we here in Indiana are lucky to have so much open wheel racing. as I've said I prefer non wing but every time I go to a race I see a lot more gray than at outlaw races, myself included. I would much rather sit next to a tattooed young person than to read about another track closing. by the way, I know a lot of tattooed young people who are hard working, creative, fun people, more fun to sit next than some old grouch. that said, I got to go get a tattoo and some "just for men" before I leave for the 4 crown