Pat did go the extra mile. I apologize if I didn't sound helpful; all I was trying to say is, once you've established your baseline (based on your chassis builder's recommendations) you can't really rely on other people's setup changes to work for you. We may be running the exact same chassis with the same bars and shocks but that doesn't account for the infinite number of variables like constantly changing track conditions, driving styles and on and on. One of the variables that hasn't really been mentioned by anyone but me is that any modifcations that may have been made by you or someone else will likely alter your chassis' dynamics to the point that it won't respond the same way. For example, my chassis was allegedly built by someone who is no longer in business and the car has been "rubbed on" by at least three other sets of hands; where am I supposed to go for a baseline? There are books and DVD's out there (most that have been mentioned in this thread) that have excellent information which will help immensely. Jimmy Sills' DVD is full of the stuff you're asking about, especially the bit at the end where he talks over real-race videos and describes what his and other driver's cars are doing, who's setups are and aren't working and what to do when it's not. That being said, experience is still the best teacher; find your baseline, then get out there next year and enjoy the process. While you are at the track is also the best time to seek out the expert advice, too, because what's happening at that moment is an important part of the equation. Hopefully in a few years you'll have learned enough that the newbies will be coming to you.