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Mark
To the best of my knowledge we have one Kawasaki zx10r racing with the MMSA and You guys have I think 3 zx10r's racing with you, would that be right?
Yes this is correct, Believe me with all the trouble I have had I should have went with what I had before. GSXR, But I was determined to stop blowing motors and oil. And you know for about $100 or less I did it. Me and Phil spoke about the problems and approached it a little different but appear to both have achieved the same results without a dry sump. I have 1.5 years on my current Gen 2 motor.
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Why didn't racing groups not try to ban the zx10r 10 years ago when it showed a 20+ horsepower advantage on the other bike motors? I would like to think that the reason was that they did not read as many magazines as us enlightened ones did and we snuck in. If these high powered motors for their time were so hot why do you see so many other motors racing and not Kawasaki's?
10 years ago was before my time and really before there was great excess to dynos, internet and other media. So I would say that 20hp was sales BS IMO. Plus as far as I know everyone was racing oil and water cooled GSXR and building them to the hilt.
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To the casual reader one might think that you are trying to protect your advantage from the newer and better developed motors. That is your perogative to do so.
Really? And what advantage would that be? What I am after as a promoter is parity. I think we all have seen what happens when motors go un checked or you have rules that cant be backed up with sound tech. The old gentleman’s agreement does not work. So before casting that stone you better look at your reasons for making such a ridiculous statement.
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However there is one thing you should keep in mind. If you are racing to win that old Kawasaki is going meet it just rewards someday just as all racing motor do. So when it does are you going to go out and buy a low mile 08 motor again, but this time 12,000 to 15,000 is going to be what they call low miles.
I have always said I would rather know what I have then what I think I have in a used motor. Buy that higher milage motor and put new bearings and rings in it. Let me cut you off,, Never seen a crank wear or gears go bad on one of these newer motors. I guess over time it will happen but when you think about the amount of time we actually put on it compared to the guys street riding. Wont happen. And if it does go on ebay or the so called motor forum classified section and by a crank or gears or what ever.
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We already have some groups that cling to old and outdated motors and because of that reason their motors and parts for them just keep getting more expensive every day.
Who is this?
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I am all for stock motors but if we want to keep racing motorcycle powered race cars the cars may have to adapt to work with these new motors. When you start penalizing people who want to develop new engines, maybe just because they like a challenge. Like I keep on saying,
"You are cutting off your nose to spite your face".
At some point I agree these new motors will have to be allowed. And as I have stated on other debates with you I will agree with whatever our regional rules final decision is. But if you are going to allow these motors now then you might as well allow others to build there motors with the same cam specs, compression because that will be the only way to get these motors equal. Again look at the dwarf car guys. NO BMW and NO 2011 ZX-10? I guess we are all miss guided in your eyes?