Originally Posted by openwheel44:
Mark and I have debated the tech procedure of gasoline. Yes........a can of worms. Maybe not a feasible solution but we thought about simply stating......buy your gas at a designated gas station close to the track. We could test and compare somewhat then. If you think your gas is close to what that tests.......knock yourself out and good luck. At this point...........we don't have very many "gas guys" racing around here so it hasn't been a big issue............yet. Hoping this meeting will get us all some "direction" on how to deal with this issue also.
Not a tire expert but..................does soaking or treating a spec tire soften it significantly? If so, how much is a good rule of thumb a Hoosier SP2 can be brought down to as compared to it's starting point???? My Go Kart buddy has been trying to enlighten me somewhat to all the crap that goes on with tire treatments. All this info makes my brain hurt. If I has educated me on one thing..........it's Go Kart guys that run asphalt usually have one hell of a tire bill.
Oh.........I see where you can buy those race ready Ecotecs, race ready all day for $10,000. Couple that with a quick change/torquetube/ball setup and start looking at the overall price then. Plus.......push trucks. The promoters we have dealt with preferred race cars with starters. Ecotec style cars defeat that purpose. To be clear.....I have nothing against Ecotecs. I wish them better luck than the Ford Focus deal went though.........
If you are going to go that route.........open up your rules to 1400+cc motors and compensate with weight if you have to.
SP2 will durometor 40 - 42/43 ...the last 2 years I checked evey tire that I had or sold and not (1) was under 40...we are talking over 100 tires so as per my rules it's 40 (BEFORE) a race or quailifing...39 you are done period!!! (that tire)...you do not want to go down the tire prepping route....what drove me out of karting....800.00 per state race....crazy!!
2012 midgets around all day for 8-10K...add a $500/$900 STOCK long block then your bolt on stuff..fuel pump..injectors...electronics....bell housing....close to $13-14K...all have starters and clutches...no need for push trucks....189 HP...cut the head maybe 196... Price to rebuild $168.00...just did it...
when ROUSH took over that deal it went down hill...12K for a motor....somebody was making $$$$$....then again WHO'S fault was it???? USAC cause they needed to make X amount at the racers expenice...
Weight...935 "STOCK" 1000cc .... 1000lbs. STOCK 1200cc....1125lbs. STOCK 2.0-2.4...Ford/Chevy/Honda/Quad 4...it is a win win for everyone....
sub...if a picticular combo starts to dominate 4 or more wins in a row...slow'm down with a harder RR or add weight...see how easy that is...
NONE OF THIS IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT TECH.....BY THE BOOK IN BLACK AND WHITE...NO MATTER WHO IS GETTING TECHED