So what happens to the $8500 mopar W-9's??? cant beat the top motors any more? need inches? Not long ago.... Gaertes suffered the same fate... and now some clubs are allowing them inches to get back to being competative at a bargain cost. Sure is cheaper than 18 to 20K for a fresh Esslinger or Fontana. Anyone know what the going rate is for a fresh Toyota??? and certainly less than $34k for a new Mopar. Wheres it end??