Ya I know what you're saying, but that is when the slider has you're front end cleared. This film don't lie, Windom wasn't even close enough to attempt the slider and not even close to clearing the front end. No excuses here uless Windom lost his brakes. I don't know Windom, but I did see him stuff another racer into a push truck after the checkers at TSS. I say he was getting his butt kicked by an upcoming racer and had an attitude!