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1/25/08, 11:41 PM

You people make me laugh...

Just because you saw a lot of these races, and like a guy as a person, that doesn't make him Hall of Fame material. Sure, Glenn Fitzcharles was a good racer. But, he WAS NOT an elite one. THE HALL OF FAME is not for for everyone who ever won a race in a sprint car. It's for guys who were the best of the best against everyone they came up against. THIS GUY WAS NEVER THAT.

Lets look at the facts (per Open Wheel Times)...

From 1975 to is retirement in 1999, Glenn Fitzcharles managed 85 wins. 81 of these came in URC, a 360 club for people on the way up, and those on the way out...It is universally known that 360 racing is not the elite form of sprint car racing in Pennsylvania, or anywhere in the free world for that matter. Only a select few have made it their life's mission to make a career out of URC. One is Fitzcharles. Of the four features he won outside of URC (all with a 410), 2 came at Selingsgrove, 1 at Lincoln, 1 at Williams Grove as part of a "twin 20" program. In the four years that Fitzcharles attempted to race 410s predominantly, his win percentage went from an average of around 27% to 7%, and that includes 6 wins in URC the first year he tried it (1991). Once he returned to where he could win regularly in URC, his win percentage shot back up to 25% in 1995, and 15% in 1996, the final year he actually won a race. He retired after going winless in his final three years (or 26 starts).

So, as long as he raced in the 360 club, he was a hero. When he raced with the best of the best in the 'tough-as-nails' Pennsylvania 410 circuit, he won just 4 races EVER!

Good racer. Not a Hall of Famer. Those are the facts, people. You can say whatever you want about me, you can scream and yell that I owe someone an apology, but I have not insulted anyone directly. I have merely STATED THE FACTS and in doing so, questioned the validity of the voting process. Say what you will, but I stand by my opinion, and with the facts bolstering my position.

BTW, I have no problem with the inclusion of Hamp, Howells, or any of the other inductees. Please do not presume to speak for me ever again, thank you very much.

DM - "Just the fax, ma'am. Just the fax" - Bruce Willis as John McClane, Die Hard 2 (1990)

1/25/08, 11:41 PM	#10 Re: 12 Inductees announced as "Class of '08" for Sprint Car HOF
Millsvideo Posts: n/a	You people make me laugh... Just because you saw a lot of these races, and like a guy as a person, that doesn't make him Hall of Fame material. Sure, Glenn Fitzcharles was a good racer. But, he WAS NOT an elite one. THE HALL OF FAME is not for for everyone who ever won a race in a sprint car. It's for guys who were the best of the best against everyone they came up against. THIS GUY WAS NEVER THAT. Lets look at the facts (per Open Wheel Times)... From 1975 to is retirement in 1999, Glenn Fitzcharles managed 85 wins. 81 of these came in URC, a 360 club for people on the way up, and those on the way out...It is universally known that 360 racing is not the elite form of sprint car racing in Pennsylvania, or anywhere in the free world for that matter. Only a select few have made it their life's mission to make a career out of URC. One is Fitzcharles. Of the four features he won outside of URC (all with a 410), 2 came at Selingsgrove, 1 at Lincoln, 1 at Williams Grove as part of a "twin 20" program. In the four years that Fitzcharles attempted to race 410s predominantly, his win percentage went from an average of around 27% to 7%, and that includes 6 wins in URC the first year he tried it (1991). Once he returned to where he could win regularly in URC, his win percentage shot back up to 25% in 1995, and 15% in 1996, the final year he actually won a race. He retired after going winless in his final three years (or 26 starts). So, as long as he raced in the 360 club, he was a hero. When he raced with the best of the best in the 'tough-as-nails' Pennsylvania 410 circuit, he won just 4 races EVER! Good racer. Not a Hall of Famer. Those are the facts, people. You can say whatever you want about me, you can scream and yell that I owe someone an apology, but I have not insulted anyone directly. I have merely STATED THE FACTS and in doing so, questioned the validity of the voting process. Say what you will, but I stand by my opinion, and with the facts bolstering my position. BTW, I have no problem with the inclusion of Hamp, Howells, or any of the other inductees. Please do not presume to speak for me ever again, thank you very much. DM - "Just the fax, ma'am. Just the fax" - Bruce Willis as John McClane, Die Hard 2 (1990)