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openwheel44 (Offline)
  #10 11/14/11 2:55 PM
I don't think anyone is looking for a "250 page" rule book nor should there be one required. Common sense rules. I think this whole thing was generated to standardize weights and get this fuel situation "understood" and under control. Are all groups rules the same. Hell no. Could they be? Maybe? Let's start out only talking the 1000cc class/motors. Grandfather out the larger existing motors over time and by weight allowances. Basic chassis rules and safety rules could easily be agreed to. This weight and fuel situation is what needs to be addressed for standardization. Tire rules could boil down to a simple durometer check after the race is over. Check it after the heats and the feature. Maybe mandate the same tire for both races unless it is damaged and then replaced with the approval of the race director? If a group has a tire deal going with a manufacturer, that can be addressed locally and anyone going there will be on their own to comply but a "suggested" minimum tire durometer is a good start. Now we have the issue of alky versus gas. Somehow, it has been determined that alky is has as unfair advantage. Obviously, I disagree if you read the posts on the facebook discussion. I was simply asking for reasoning that puts unjust amounts of weight on alky cars. I have yet to see anyone produce documented information that validates this. A produced unbaised dyno test shows a 3-4 hp gain at certain rpm ranges. Is that enough to warrant the amount of weight some groups are trying to add? The idea that alky is undermined "to reduce costs" has been debunked repeatedly. While the initial cost is minor ($350-$750 one time investment) it is not that much more expensive than the gas guys buying aftermarket power commanders and elaborate radiators and fans. I would just like to see some standardizations on fuel and reasoning behind it.

Weight.........keep it simple. One weight for either fuel provided it is that 1000cc motor rule we are all trying to work toward. Some racers are running midget style cars while some are running "specific built" cars for this class. Obviously those cars are going to be slightly lighter and mainly........cheaper. They are just as safe especially since here in the midwest, we run on 3/8 miles or less. Usually 1/4 miles. Anyway...to each his own. The 925# minimum weight (winged) worked for years in various groups. Personally......I get aggrevated when I see the 600's faster than our class because we are adding so much weight to our cars. How much we need to slow these cars down to see how many racers we can push toward that 600 class? Or any other class for that matter? I haven't noticed any other class out there that runs a mixture of gas and alky cars differentiating weights to compensate for the type of fuel.....why this class?

Motors...........Stock appearing sounds convienent but I think we all know.......that can get expensive. Most of us have a clue what can get spent INSIDE a motor. Tech is an ugly, ugly word but if you want to control costs, maybe box stock is the way to go? Already have heard of a gas motor that has about $7000 added to it internally coupled with an aftermarket ignition/fuel system. So we all know there probably are quite a few motors out there with something in between that and stock "costs" already.

I am passionate about this class since I have been involved since 1986 and one thing I am EXTREMELY thankful for........The group I run with, Midwest Lightning Sprints, has stuck by their guns and maintained reasonable and fair rules for all. I just don't want to deal with this gas/alky cluster f&#% here. Besides..........Years ago, there was a National Organization (National Outlaw Minisprint Association) that headed this class in the right direction and helped maintain some degree of sanity. No one expects this to be to a way to control "local" racing but it's more for the big races throughout the year that has the potential to draw some travelers. Like National races or "special races" at pre and post season so everyone know what they are driving into. That is if the economy lets any of us actually travel........