I totally agree with TQ97 myself, TATE is a great driver, don,t always blame a driver for the setup of a team that isn,t great at setting up a car yet. I saw him take an average car from 16th to 4th in about 11 laps and 6 of those was on 3 legs the car had broke a shock spud. He is more than an average driver. And done this with a steel block engine, against a bunch of big name alum. motors. Give the man credit where credit is due.