But my point is... If suddenly next year my motor is obsolete by rule and I'm sitting on a perfectly good and fresh motor or two I now have to spend $11k just to race... knowing that I can't get anything out of my current engines. At that point I'm just going to cut my losses with this midget and sell a roller.

How do you propose to transition from 350+ HP motors to 250 HP motors and maintain a car count among those people who can't afford to make the switch and are sitting on an otherwise perfectly good and fresh motor? Sincere question because you might have a perfectly valid answer.

I have no doubt that given time the ASCS2 with the ecotech is going to build some car count in the Plains states - especially with Hahn's backing as it's been done before with sprint cars. But I'd much prefer to find a rules package for an DOHC modern production based engine that puts it closer to the 300-325 HP range. At that point you can jump off into one and actually be competitive on some short tracks and slicked off tracks against the current crop of engines.

And how are you going to make a rules package to keep people from getting exotic with the base DOHC ecotech type motor? Has Iaia gotten the most power out of this configuration that is possible? Doubtful. I bet with another $100k of R&D and exotic parts you can put 50+ more HP in one of those. So, unless it's going to be a focus style single manufacturer, sealed engine type of deal across the country then you really haven't solved much. You've just bought a new puzzle to throw money at.

And if HP doesn't matter, is there really that much difference between a 250 HP ecotech and a 180HP Focus motor? Plenty of those sitting around. What's your argument why we should stop at the Ecotech instead of just going all the way down to a Focus only rule? All of your points would be equally valid. Which of your points in support of going to an ecotech isn't equally as valid in going to a Focus?


As it stands, despite the occasional success that is cited, a 250HP engine can't very well transition against 350+ hp motors. What I don't want to have happen is what my current sprint car predicament is... Own one motor to travel West and another with more HP and different rules to travel East.

This discussion is a long way from discussing multiple pit pass charges. Pretty tied up the rest of the day. We'll save it for another day, Don.