I didn't see a "tongue in cheek" icon along with all the smiley-faces, so I used the big smile icon at the end of my post, thinking you'd get it. The fact of the matter is we've been racing in Indiana since 2003 with our ASCS-legal motors, which aren't top of the line for ASCS, either. While we haven't done particularly good, we haven't embarrassed ourselves, either. We were learning a new car (for us) and new tracks last year, so we're planning for better results in 2010.

Short answer - Yes, I believe one can compete without wings with a 360 steel block motor against 410 aluminum block motors, especially on tracks shorter than half-miles.

Tim Simmons