Ates was breathtakingly fast in that car on the high banks, especially at Dayton. I got to see some great pavement racing in the late 60's featuring Ates, Dickson, Weld, Sessions, and occasionally Mike Mosley among others. Another notable #93 chauffeur was Allen Crowe. He was killed at New Bremen on 6/2/63 in the 8th race of a 24 race schedule that season. Yet, he still finished 7th in the 1963 driver point standings. He was off to a great start and had won the previous feature at Eldora. Those were exciting years but too often stained by tragedy.