How to tune with a Power Commander
 

I recently purchased a Guhl methanol system for my 2006 R1 and I am clueless on how to use the power commander to tune the engine. The unit has the map that the old user was using (2006 R1) which is the same engine I am running. Should I just assume the map will be correct? My uneducated thought is that I should still have the engine dyno tested but I am not sure how to adjust the unit at the dyno. The only dyno I know of anywhere close to me is in Indianapolis and it is not someone who "specializes" in mini sprints so I would like to have some clue as to how to adjust what needs to be adjusted with the unit. I don't really want to have to drive to the other 2 dyno sites I know of that do specialize in mini's (Stewart Dyno and Guhl) which are 6-8 hours away to get this done. Any help enlightening the ignorant on this would be very much appreciated.

Re: How to tune with a Power Commander
 

if everything is the same and same fuel then you should be close. Im not saying that it will be right though. I cant remember how to tune the power commandor but your best bet if you have the time and money would be to go to guhl himself and let him tune it. he is one of the best around at tuning these cars. If you cant do that then give him a call he should be able to give you a pretty good map just by telling him whats done to your car. I would shy away from doing it yourself if you have never done it before.

Ill see if I can find his number, but there is a dyno in northern indiana that does all the tuning for you. They mainly do the 600 micro sprints, but don't see why they couldn't do a full mini sprint.

His name is Gary Miller.
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Eric Shively has a new dyno, he is located outside of Flora IN, between Kokomo and Lafayette.

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You might want to ck out www.cozzolinoMotorsports.com, they have helped a lot of the TQ guys this year. Bob!:)

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I'd second thebus the Millers are very good with the injection and troubleshooting problems. I'm not 100% sure if they could hook the dyno up to a car with out the 1.75 dia axle that is common on the micro's (sidwinders).??

Re: How to tune with a Power Commander
 

To be safe call Guhl. I understand he has a power comander map already loaded in his PC.

However that is only part of the equation. You also need a starting point for fuel press.

We do a lot of our fine tuning with fp only. Remember Too much fp is much better than too little. It will run great on low pres but it wont take but a lap or two to melt it down. Too much and you will have a blubber but that dont hurt too much.

We are down in New Albany. We have an old clayton dyno we tune with seems to do a pretty good job. It aint very fancy but we do run pretty good using it. A lot of the dyno work is pure BULL, and we can't afford to pay for bull right now.

If we can help PM me.

DAD

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Have 2010 R-1 with Power Commander. Without going to alcohol, is there someone that can set up ( re-jet) and dyno? In general tune motor, get to run cooler and map. New at winged mini, raced ~ 6 times late last year and can see issues with overheating in midsummer. Located in Cincinnati. Thanks Tim

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Do not waste your monies and time. Go to Don Guhl. He knows the engine and the power command tuning and will get the best performance.

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Originally Posted by George Pollock:
Do not waste your monies and time. Go to Don Guhl. He knows the engine and the power command tuning and will get the best performance.

Hello, George, long time, no see! Guess we're both still able to sit up and take nourishment, which in itself, is no small wonder! Just had a question for ya, is the electronic FI that much better, than say a Hilborn, or Kinsler, or Engler? Reason I asked, I've been running a 600 Yamaha, since 05, and in the interests of keeping costs down, I took all the parts needed, to put an old Honda, in a TQ, and did what was necessary to allow them to be used on modern engines, I took my Hilborn, which was the modular unit, and reworked the spacer bars and things, and put it on the 600, same with the oil pump/fuel injection pump drive, which also included the Dyna S Ignition, and did away with all the electronic controls, so almost anyone with a Honda, could make the conversion, with my "kit" we'll say, it was inexpensive, and the technology was at least in this decade, and even being competative, with a small, lighter engine, that cost little to build, didn't get much response, maybe it's "cool" to be able to "tune" an engine with a computer, but under the conditions we're usually under, I felt like it was more effective, to work with something most people were already at least somewhat aquainted, and I still feel that way, is it that they are "afraid" of the mechanical FI, because they don't understand it, or do they feel more comfortable with electronic? Good hearing/seeing your name again, I did have an unusual meeting with a guy the other night, small world, anyway, we were at a Christmas party, from Church, and the subject of Mayo Clinic came up, and the fellow across the table from me, spoke up, and said he'd been there a few times, said he'd flown a kid up there several years back, that had been injured in a go-kart race, and I said "Brad Tobias", and he got the strangest look on his face, and he said, "yes, how'd you know that", well, you know here the story went from there, anyway, he had worked for an outfit called "Angel Wings" or something like that, that flew people, who couldn't otherwise afford it, to places that they could get the attention they needed, here at Christmas time, that was good to hear. Anyway, thanks for listening, and let me know your opinion on the FI deal. Bob!