USAC 2010 Dual championships
 

According to this article, USAC is considering dual sprint car championships, pavement and dirt for 2010. thoughts?

http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/spo...ml?start:int=0

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About mid season this year I was talking to Jesse Hocketts crew chief about how proud I was of his non wing results. At the time Hockett was a close 3rd in USAC points in spite of 2 recent showings on asphalt that left a lot to be desired.

I said "It's a shame USAC doesn't crown a dirt champ, an asphalt champ, and an overall champ anymore."

Hocketts guy said that if they did that that it would probably kill the pavement car count even more. At the time I thought he was probably right but after reading the thread about pavement car counts I am now starting to think it may help them a bit.

You may see more asphalt specialists and NASCAR hopefulls coming to race because they can stay off the dirt and still contend for a championship. Especially if there is a little bit of point fund money to entice some of the cars that are getting "Garage Rot" to come out and play again.

Now if they would just come up with a way to keep people from using 12 tires per show.....

I hope they do it and i hope it works!!!!

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Now if they would just come up with a way to keep people from using 12 tires per show

Limit the number of tires per team as suggested by Jeff Bloom in the article..........

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And how to they expect to pay two separate point funds? Not that their races actually have decent payouts to begin with...:14:

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Originally Posted by CTtoPA:
And how to they expect to pay two separate point funds? Not that their races actually have decent payouts to begin with...:14:

Allow each team to buy 2 tires per event at regular price...then every tire after that costs 2 thousand bucks of which 1800 goes into the point fund....ha ha ha ha ha ha

then dock each team 100 points for every tire they buy at 2 grand...that should work shouldn't it?!?!?!?

Seriously, I realize paying 3 point funds would be tough if 1 point fund is already hard to do. I just want my buddy Hockett to add "USAC CHAMP" to his resume someday.

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Originally Posted by Kevracer58:
Limit the number of tires per team as suggested by Jeff Bloom in the article..........

Good article. It's also good that communication lines are open.

Clearly, dual championships won't necessarily increase car counts or people in the stands. It might just dilute the product being offered. Didn't the Focus series start out with separate dirt & pavement divisions?

From the article, a two tire rule seems like a no-brainer. And, as mentioned on another thread, I think that non-qualifiers from heat races shouldn't get their spot back in the B-Main either.

In short, I think it starts with lower car operating costs; increasing sponsorship value for both teams and tracks; and, increasing fan's entertainment value. Most of us already know this. Or do we?

In the business world, a popular operational platform is called lean manufacturing. For the most part, it looks at ALL aspects of the business in a workflow & productivity sense. The overriding theme is:

"If a process doesn't benefit the customer - it's WASTE."

Sooooo, the question is do WE - and, I do mean, WE - know who the customer is?
The answer to that question explains a lot of where motivations lie.

Just my 2-cents...OK, 3-cents :2:
Have a great night, all!

Jimmy Baumgartner

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:11: I honestly have no idea if it is the right thing for the Sprint Car division, or not???? :11:
It sure would be a GREAT THING for the Silver Crown division though!!!! :6:

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I think they should just co-sanction pavement races with HOSS. Wings aren't as cool, but maybe what is needed to get through this time? I'm NOT saying anything about the airfoils on dirt...just for the pavement races. They ran wings on both dirt and pavement in the late 80s and grew back to be very healthy in the mid 90s, so maybe this would just be another chapter in the book. Oh, but at least the Little 500 should be non-wing...car count was good there this year...Hopefully other clubs will follow this tire rule!

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I can ALMOST guarantee if HOSS and USAC raced doubleheader weekends, like Winchester, there would be a worthwhile number of guys switching cars around to run the USAC end. I wouldn't get my hopes up for HOSS/USAC at Newton, or Richmond. Even IRP is tough on engines pulling that wing around. The tire issues expressed earlier in this thread are the most glaring issue holding this from happening. Bodies can be reworked, or changed overnight. Another major holdup is that HOSS cars are much less funded than USAC cars. It was no mystery when Tracy Hines goes into the 13s and Bloom can only do a 14.205. Conditions weren't great for Jeff, but still the disparity behind him was immense compared to USACs group. Don't hope for "full" fields, then be let down when twenty six cars aren't all within a half second of the pole. Even though they are lesser funded, it's true HOSS has pulled a better car count all season.

I've probably forgot something but my breakfast is here. Waffle House yo!
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Originally Posted by short track scott:
i can almost guarantee if hoss and usac raced doubleheader weekends, like winchester, there would be a worthwhile number of guys switching cars around to run the usac end. I wouldn't get my hopes up for hoss/usac at newton, or richmond. Even irp is tough on engines pulling that wing around. The tire issues expressed earlier in this thread are the most glaring issue holding this from happening. Bodies can be reworked, or changed overnight. Another major holdup is that hoss cars are much less funded than usac cars. It was no mystery when tracy hines goes into the 13s and bloom can only do a 14.205. Conditions weren't great for jeff, but still the disparity behind him was immense compared to usacs group. Don't hope for "full" fields, then be let down when twenty six cars aren't all within a half second of the pole. Even though they are lesser funded, it's true hoss has pulled a better car count all season.

I've probably forgot something but my breakfast is here. Waffle house yo!
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they don't want to race with out a wing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And they would not keep up with the top 6 in usac!!!!!!!!!!!:14::15: