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Bullringsarebest 9/27/08 6:59 PM

Morgan County, Full Results from 9/26
 
Here is the full Shaheen's Rundown from last night. Sorry it took so long to get this posted. Thanks to everyone who came out and supported the Non Winged Show!!!:thumb
1st Heat: 2b Dave Darland, 11d Levi Jones, 14 Hud Cone, 83 Chris Urisch, 73 Casey Shuman, 98 JC Bland, 17b Brett Burdett, 51b Randy Bateman, 72 Al Thomas, 97Brett Mellenberndt
2nd Heat: 10 Darren Hagan, 9 Brad Sweet, 22 Ron Standridge, 71 Chad Branson, 2 Dene McAllan, 7s Wade Seiler, 90 Patrick Budde, 3 Dustin Adams, 7x Mitch Wissmiller, 36 Brady Short.
3rd Heat: 10f Blake Fitzpatrick, 99w Korey Weyant, 99 Brady Bacon, 10t Thomas Meseraull, 1h Kyle Cummins, 11w Ricky Williams, 4m John Memmer, 20 Steve Thomas, 11t Tyler Reddick, 88 Terry Babb.
4th Heat: 7r John Stanbrough, 11 Hunter Schuerenberg, 22 Brett Triplett, 51 Mike Hess, 1 JJ Yeley, 92 Darren Clayton, 34 AJ Anderson, 4a Mark Arnold, 2 Tracy Hines, 7k Justin Zimmerman, 17 Chris Windom.

Feature: 2b Dave Darland, 9 Brad Sweet, 7r John Stanbrough, 99 Brady Bacon, 10f Blake Fitzpatrick, 11d Levi Jones, 14 Hud Cone, 73 Casey Schuman, 10t Thomas Meseraull, 99w Korey Weyant, 51 Mike Hess, 22 Ron Standridge, 10 Darren Hagan, 71 Chad Branson, 22 Brett Triplett, 11 Hunter Schuerenberg, 83 Chris Urisch, 4m John Memmer, 34 AJ Anderson, 1h Kyle Cummins, 17 Chris Windom, 7x Mitch Wissmiller.

racegal 9/27/08 7:18 PM

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Thank you!!:applaud:
Congratulations Dave!!!:checkered:

Kirk Spridgeon 9/29/08 1:42 PM

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Just a quick question: How was Schuerenberg scored 16th? He was going for third, on the lead lap, when he spun in turn one. Darland was taking the checkered, so the race was over. How is he put behind all the guys one lap down? Pending a restart, would he not have been the last car on the lead lap?

Bullringsarebest 9/29/08 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 66888)
Just a quick question: How was Schuerenberg scored 16th? He was going for third, on the lead lap, when he spun in turn one. Darland was taking the checkered, so the race was over. How is he put behind all the guys one lap down? Pending a restart, would he not have been the last car on the lead lap?

Good question...give me a few,and I'll look in to it:wink

Bullringsarebest 9/29/08 2:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 66888)
Just a quick question: How was Schuerenberg scored 16th? He was going for third, on the lead lap, when he spun in turn one. Darland was taking the checkered, so the race was over. How is he put behind all the guys one lap down? Pending a restart, would he not have been the last car on the lead lap?

Did he finish,or was he a lap down also,just curious

RACEADDICT 9/29/08 3:31 PM

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(Hunter)He Did not finish.


Billy, Great race night. I hope you guys did well. It was a blast as a participant hopefully all the fans enjoyed it. Already looking forward to next year. Lots of rumors floating around the pits. Can you let us know for sure what is your plan for next year. Sure hope it involves us non-wing guys. It could really grow into a great weekly show.

Thanks again. Chad Branson #71

Kirk Spridgeon 9/29/08 3:51 PM

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What does that have to do with it? He completed more laps than all but about six cars. Isn't that how the finish of races are scored? There was no restart after his mishap, so how did he lose a lap (or more)?

chillyrn 9/29/08 3:52 PM

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If Hunter was on the lead lap (which he was), I would think he would finish as the last car on the lead lap (which would've been around 7th - DD was on a tear).

But I also thought that if you caused a caution - ie, you spun - (whether it was on the initial restart, or with at least a lap down), you went to the tail.

RACEADDICT 9/29/08 4:00 PM

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:wink I was not saying anything other than answering Billy's question whether or not he finished. I don't know but if he did not complete the last lap doesn't that also put him one less lap than DD? Again not argueing. just asking

Bullringsarebest 9/29/08 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RACEADDICT (Post 66912)
:wink I was not saying anything other than answering Billy's question whether or not he finished. I don't know but if he did not complete the last lap doesn't that also put him one less lap than DD? Again not argueing. just asking

That is what makes sense to me,But I was not the scorers.If there was a caution then he should have went to the tail,but still on the lead lap.There was no yellow so maybe he lost that lap,not completing it.When these guys get off work,maybe they can explain.

Kirk Spridgeon 9/29/08 5:14 PM

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Darland was really the only one who completed 40 laps. Which means those cars a lap down really only completed 38. Hunter completed 39.

illiNOISE 9/29/08 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chillyrn (Post 66907)
But I also thought that if you caused a caution - ie, you spun - (whether it was on the initial restart, or with at least a lap down), you went to the tail.

True, but it would be to the tail of the cars on the lead lap. Even when the lapped cars are positioned where they were on the track on the last scored lap, and the driver charged with the yellow is physically behind the lapped cars on the reline, provided he was on the lead lap when he caused the yellow, that driver is still considered ahead of the lapped cars in terms of position.

Al Soran 9/30/08 7:53 AM

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Interesting thread this has turned into. In '99 I ran a WoO show at Joliet. Our iron block motor didn't have a chance against the Kinser's, Swindell's, etc., but we went for the experience and the hopes that we might slip into the back of the A, and live a life-long dream of going 4-abreast.

Well, we were running a strong next-to-last in the B-main and were one lap down when Dollansky spun bringing out the caution and the checkers (a few laps short of the scheduled amount of laps, we assumed due to time constraints). It seemed strange to me and the guy who was running ahead of me, I'll call him Duke, that Dollansky got the last transfer spot. Duke was still running, the first guy one lap down, when Dollansky brought out the yellow/checkered. The Outlaw officials weren't inclined to spend any time explaining it to me and Duke, and we kind of figured it was a ******** kind of deal since his name was Dollansky, and we were Schmuck and Soran. So, we watched from the stands as Dollansky and the rest of the regulars rolled around the track 4-abreast, and proceeded to shred for 30 laps without us. We drank our beer, signed a few autographs (a real ego booster), loaded up and headed home (had a flat tire on the trailer to add insult to injury).

After giving it some thought though, since Dollandky was a lap ahead of us when the yellow checkered fell, we figured he would have gone to the back of the lead lap, and still been ahead of us. As should probably be the case in this fellows instance.

Bullringsarebest 9/30/08 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 66932)
Darland was really the only one who completed 40 laps. Which means those cars a lap down really only completed 38. Hunter completed 39.

It took a while for it to sink in ,but I think I know what you are saying.In simple terms..1-8 completed 40 laps.Hunter completed 39 and a quarter laps.The guys who were a lap down to the leader only completed 39 laps(at the stripe)They do not get the chance to pass Hunter(since their race is over at the stripe).DD never lapped Hunter since his race was over at the line,also.This is the simplest way for me to understand.Dont Blame me.Everybody knows promoters are'nt the brightest creatures anyway:kookoo.Still waiting on what happened,but I'm pretty sure they made a hasty decision(since the race was over at the checker)

Kirk Spridgeon 9/30/08 11:46 AM

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Understood. I was just wondering if there was another way of looking at it.

They probably should have brought that up at the pay window, since it really doesn't do much now...thanks for jumping on here, though! Hope you made some money on the deal and want to schedule a couple for next year!! :)

Bullringsarebest 9/30/08 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirk Spridgeon (Post 67085)
Understood. I was just wondering if there was another way of looking at it.

They probably should have brought that up at the pay window, since it really doesn't do much now...thanks for jumping on here, though! Hope you made some money on the deal and want to schedule a couple for next year!! :)

Well..as of now the rumor is I'm runnin wing sprints next year.So when they let me know what I'm doing I will pass it on.:kookoo:rolling:confused::rolleyes:

RR>LR=LTO 9/30/08 1:11 PM

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You have got to be Mother Effing kidding me!!!!!!! If that's the worst thing you guys saw at the racetrack then you are blind! How do you spin, TWICE and get your spot back? HORRIBLE rules. I've never seen anything like it! I will not be back. Stick to stock cars and mid-budget wing sprints. Cool racetrack............bad scorers.

RACEADDICT 9/30/08 1:45 PM

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:doh:Jacksonville has always been if you spin on the intial start you get your spot back. No surprise there. So what if there scorers made one mistake, I have tried to score before, how easy do you think it would be to score 22 sprinters who you are unfamiliar with for 40 laps on a small little bullring with about 25 or 30 laps in a row green with lapping and racing going on every where?????

Over all great show and great talent there. Let us know Billy because all of us Non-wing guys really enjoy running with you. Hope you did well Friday.

illiNOISE 9/30/08 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RACEADDICT (Post 67117)
: So what if there scorers made one mistake, I have tried to score before, how easy do you think it would be to score 22 sprinters who you are unfamiliar with for 40 laps on a small little bullring with about 25 or 30 laps in a row green with lapping and racing going on every where?????.

I agree. While scoring is not exactly brain surgery, it's not as simple as some might make it out to be.

Bullringsarebest 9/30/08 4:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RACEADDICT (Post 67117)
:doh:Jacksonville has always been if you spin on the intial start you get your spot back. No surprise there. So what if there scorers made one mistake, I have tried to score before, how easy do you think it would be to score 22 sprinters who you are unfamiliar with for 40 laps on a small little bullring with about 25 or 30 laps in a row green with lapping and racing going on every where?????

Over all great show and great talent there. Let us know Billy because all of us Non-wing guys really enjoy running with you. Hope you did well Friday.

Few changes,nothing major.We are still working on a date for the banq. somewhere in Nov.:)keep panties on:O:Ducks should be all lined up at the banquet.

illiNOISE 9/30/08 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bullringsarebest (Post 67133)
Few changes,nothing major.We are still working on a date for the banq. somewhere in Nov.:)keep panties on:O:Ducks should be all lined up at the banquet.

Speaking of ducks, at least the banquet won't be rained out. LOL


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