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Wayne Davis 2/1/17 1:17 PM

Largest D-2 midget race in the world
 
ONLY 7 DAYS LEFT

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1. $5000
2. $2000
3. $1000
4. $800
5. $700
6. $600
7. $500
8. $480
9. $460
10. $440
11. $420
12. $400
13. $390
14. $380
15. $370
16. $360
17. $350
18. $340
19. $330
20. $320
--------- 21/22 will be filled by pill draw of cars that did not make the show
21. $310
22. $300...$300 to start




Aces&Eights 2/2/17 9:12 AM

Re: Largest D-2 midget race in the world
 
I may have to go check this out, I can't believe it, "open Wheel" in Georgia!!!:8:

flyer 2/2/17 3:37 PM

How many D-2 Midgets are entered so far? Are you going to post the entry list?

Wayne Davis 2/5/17 6:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flyer (Post 467114)
How many D-2 Midgets are entered so far? Are you going to post the entry list?

It's on another post here on IOW...I'll try to find it

sprinthead 2/6/17 12:56 PM

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What times are the D-2 midgets running the heats on Friday and the features on Saturday? I'm guessing they are day races?

Thanks,
Jason

Wayne Davis 2/6/17 2:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprinthead (Post 467356)
What times are the D-2 midgets running the heats on Friday and the features on Saturday? I'm guessing they are day races?

Thanks,
Jason

Hotlaps at 2 both days racing at 2

Wayne Davis 2/9/17 11:55 AM

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Just 1 week away...gonna be a great weekend

EXTENDED FORECAST
Screven, Ga.

THU cloudy FEB 16 - 65°/48°

FRI mostly sunny FEB 17 - 68°/50°

SAT sunny FEB 18 - 70°/53°

SUN sunny FEB 19 - 73°/59°

Cobra 14 2/10/17 6:44 PM

Great format.. Really looking forward to it. Thanks for putting this together.

Jrp4554 2/10/17 7:04 PM

What's a D2 midget

TQ29m 2/10/17 7:10 PM

Good question, hope you get a responsible answer, I've started at least three times to build one, and am not any further along than buying 2 midgets, the engine rules are in Greek. Bob

Cobra 14 2/10/17 9:04 PM

http://www.ssmidgets.com/gd-nationals.html

That page has the rules

Crankin 2/10/17 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467638)
Good question, hope you get a responsible answer, I've started at least three times to build one, and am not any further along than buying 2 midgets, the engine rules are in Greek. Bob

Well Bob, perhaps then you have a reading comprehension issue? Because i see a whole bunch of people who were able to field cars after reading those "greek" rules just one time.... On their first try! And all those readers of the greek language, support series such as powri, usac, Wayne's deal, and others instead of just talking about it.

Seems to me Bob, that the "responsible" thing for you to do is hire an interpreter before you start your fourth attempt. 🙄

Aces&Eights 2/11/17 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467638)
Good question, hope you get a responsible answer, I've started at least three times to build one, and am not any further along than buying 2 midgets, the engine rules are in Greek. Bob

Anybody got a link to D2 engine rules? I had no idea they'd started a southern series till this week. I see they are also Gonna be at Toccoa Speedway too, that's even closer. I know nothing of midgets, is there a sanction or series that allows say, "The ford 2.3"? I'm not a ford guy, but a lot of 4 cylinder cars in my area and I can see this class being a step up for the 4 cyl car guys...

Wayne Davis 2/11/17 12:36 PM

Go to ssmidgets.com ....yes the 2.3 duatec is a very viable engine that is allowed to run....also see the Lucas Oil Southern States Midgets Series schedule...several races in North Georgia... North Carolina... Tennesee... South Carolina... with some Fri. Sat. Shows....

interpreter66 2/11/17 1:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crankin (Post 467650)
Well Bob, perhaps then you have a reading comprehension issue? Because i see a whole bunch of people who were able to field cars after reading those "greek" rules just one time.... On their first try! And all those readers of the greek language, support series such as powri, usac, Wayne's deal, and others instead of just talking about it.

Seems to me Bob, that the "responsible" thing for you to do is hire an interpreter before you start your fourth attempt. 🙄

Did someone call for an interpreter 😀

TQ29m 2/11/17 5:39 PM

Oh I understand them, that's the problem, a guy with a Hornet has more leeway in building his engine, this class started out to be the in-between a national level engine, and a junkyard engine, something a person on a budget could build, and go racing for less than 10 grand, looks like a long shot now! Bob

kendirt 2/11/17 9:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467693)
Oh I understand them, that's the problem, a guy with a Hornet has more leeway in building his engine, this class started out to be the in-between a national level engine, and a junkyard engine, something a person on a budget could build, and go racing for less than 10 grand, looks like a long shot now! Bob

No

If you can do your own work and know how to shop for deals you can be out there and very competitive for ten grand.

If you think you need something just because a better funded team has it, there's not a class in the world you can have the best equipment for ten grand.

TQ29m 2/11/17 9:34 PM

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Oh I can do the work, I have my own machine shop, I'm sayin this class should be the entry level class, with better parts allowed for the engine, cams, pistons, rods, dry sump, fuel-injection, you can do this and still keep costs under 10k, if you can do something yourself, that's where the fun and enjoyment come in, and if that doesn't wind your watch, mortgage the farm, and go for it, I'd love to run a midget, with a "stock appearing" engine, but not one that if I wash it or chg the oil in it after pulling it out of the junkyard, it is not legal, doesn't really appeal to me. We went thru all this about a year ago, the answers never did come forth. Bob

kendirt 2/11/17 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467703)
Oh I can do the work, I have my own machine shop, I'm sayin this class should be the entry level class, with better parts allowed for the engine, cams, pistons, rods, dry sump, fuel-injection, you can do this and still keep costs under 10k, if you can do something yourself, that's where the fun and enjoyment come in, and if that doesn't wind your watch, mortgage the farm, and go for it, I'd love to run a midget, with a "stock appearing" engine, but not one that if I wash it or chg the oil in it after pulling it out of the junkyard, it is not legal, doesn't really appeal to me. We went thru all this about a year ago, the answers never did come forth. Bob

Don't know where you're at. BMARA has an eighteen race schedule this year that you can run exactly the engine you propose. Leave the stock cams in it and you can run POWRi/USAC Speed2.

I feel a little bad this is clogging up the Gator thread. If my work logistics could make it possible I'd be making the sixteen hour tow to run this race.

Crankin 2/11/17 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467703)
I'm sayin this class should be the entry level class, with better parts allowed for the engine, cams, pistons......

I'd love to run a midget, with a "stock appearing" engine, but not one that if I wash it or chg the oil in it after pulling it out of the junkyard, it is not legal, doesn't really appeal to me. We went thru all this about a year ago, the answers never did come forth. Bob

You're either completely clueless, or a lamea** troll.

You went thru this a year ago, but answers never came?
What you really mean is you didn't get the answers you wanted.
If im correct, you're the guy who went out and bought a car with a friggin Dodge Colt in it before anyone had published any rules???? ... Then proceeded to whine about your REALLY out of date, and underpowered engine was never even on the table for discussion???

You're an all talk, no action, always find an excuse to blame someone else for why your not at the race track with your supposed cars.

Sorry to everyone else, but iam sooo sick of this guy who never has, and never will have a dog in the fight. Yet is right on top of every opportunity to say something negative about it to anyone and everyone... Including people who might be interested in getting involved, and an insult to those who are.

Chris Baue 2/11/17 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467703)
Oh I can do the work, I have my own machine shop, I'm sayin this class should be the entry level class, with better parts allowed for the engine, cams, pistons, rods, dry sump, fuel-injection, you can do this and still keep costs under 10k, if you can do something yourself, that's where the fun and enjoyment come in, and if that doesn't wind your watch, mortgage the farm, and go for it, I'd love to run a midget, with a "stock appearing" engine, but not one that if I wash it or chg the oil in it after pulling it out of the junkyard, it is not legal, doesn't really appeal to me. We went thru all this about a year ago, the answers never did come forth. Bob

Bob, I believe the focus engine is legal to do all of those upgrades as well as porting and polishing. I could be mistaken but The cams are the only parts on your list of things you'd like to change that would be illegal for any of the other approved engines. It really is a entry level midget class.

Wayne Davis 2/12/17 3:49 AM

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And now back to the original post


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8UuQ5_j5IM

TQ29m 2/12/17 9:46 AM

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Chris, contrary to what Richard H. has posted, I still believe this would be a good place to start, either with an absolutely bone stock engine, or one that is "stock appearing", the way I read the rules that Wayne has posted, all you can do is freshen one up, everything has to be as it left the factory, flat top pistons, stock cams, valves, no sign of port work, leave a finger print inside, and you're out, I've ran these "stock" classes, and built lots of engines for them, and it's a lot cheaper to allow after market parts, and it's a lot easier to tech, no gray areas that require a day in court to decide! Bob

TQ29m 2/12/17 11:08 AM

I'm a long way from the Badgers, but have ran at Madison before it became a big box store, and I believe dousman, we used to make that trip at least two times a year, that was a long time before the internet and forums! I like the way BMRA rules read, we need that kind of thinking in Indiana! Bob

Colin25 2/12/17 12:03 PM

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My son ran last year with Wayne and his crew last year for Johnny Murdock "Zero Motorsports". Johnny and crew picked up a motor from a junk yard on the way down, installed it that day at the track and ran practice that night. The following night led 90% of the feature and had a straightaway lead before a late caution cost him the win, but there wasn't a thing done to that motor internally. You can like any series dump tons of money if you want but I have seen on several occasions where they have held their own on with a less expensive engine. Johnny or Wayne can be extremely helpful if you truly interested in building or buying a D-2 midget. Give either one a call they both can be every helpful if you need something. If you ever have a chance to go down and run in February it's better than being up here in the cold.

Congratulations Wayne on putting up a great payout!!!

Good luck to all Zero Motorsports cars that might be there!!!!!

Crankin 2/12/17 12:16 PM

There it is Bob, all clearly explained, AGAIN, by a few people.
So what's your excuse going to be now?

Chris Baue 2/12/17 2:20 PM

[QUOTE=TQ29m;467716]Chris, contrary to what Richard H. has posted, I still believe this would be a good place to start, either with an absolutely bone stock engine, or one that is "stock appearing", the way I read the rules that Wayne has posted, all you can do is freshen one up, everything has to be as it left the factory, flat top pistons, stock cams, valves, no sign of port work, leave a finger print inside, and you're out, I've ran these "stock" classes, and built lots of engines for them, and it's a lot cheaper to allow after market parts, and it's a lot easier to tech, no gray areas that require a day in court to decide! Bob.

Bob, seems like you're way over thinking things or just have a negative attitude about the whole deal for some reason. It's pretty simple really. If you choose the focus engine you can do anything you want to do it at all. if you want to build up any of the other engines on the list beyond what is legal for all d2 rules except badger, you can. At that point You'll be legal to run with any of the national groups. I'm surprised you're not on board with the d2 rules as they are because you're Yamaha tq engine is essentially the same deal! Mostly all stock internally with few bolt on items to make it run like dry dump pan/pump set up, mechanical injection, ignition etc. that's right up your alley Bob!! Finding complete turn key d2 race cars for under 10k is very common. I know because I did it and plan on supporting various d2 midget races as well as the national midgets. If you're really interested get ahold of me and we can go through some things!

TQ29m 2/12/17 3:27 PM

No Chris, I understand your point, it's just that things have changed so much from it's inception, till the past year, I ran the Yamaha just to see what it would do, and was surprised it did what it does, most of the time, but that's just in the cards, I guess I could build a focus, but, I have a lot of parts for an engine that was on the OK list to begin with, so all I can do with it, is go through with the build, and hope to sell it to someone to run on the street. Bob

Crankin 2/12/17 3:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 467736)
No Chris, I understand your point, it's just that things have changed so much from it's inception, till the past year, I ran the Yamaha just to see what it would do, and was surprised it did what it does, most of the time, but that's just in the cards, I guess I could build a focus, but, I have a lot of parts for an engine that was on the OK list to begin with, so all I can do with it, is go through with the build, and hope to sell it to someone to run on the street. Bob

That's the ticket Bob, just go away... And stay off any D2 posts with your negative dribble while your gone.


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