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Big T 69 1/18/17 1:05 PM

Smoke will rise from the #69
 
Go to Hoffman Racing face book page to view the announcement on the driver for the #69 Hoffman car for this year's Little 500.

interpreter66 1/18/17 1:25 PM

Let me be the first to say it sit down a$$ holes it's not a NASCAR race .get ready for the invasion,it will be just like when they invaded the chili bowl I think it's great that he's running the race it's just all the baggage that comes with that crowd

Seadog 1/18/17 3:42 PM

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Kody Swanson tweeted that he is looking for a ride now.

LB 1/18/17 4:52 PM

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Originally Posted by interpreter66 (Post 466086)
Let me be the first to say it sit down a$$ holes it's not a NASCAR race .get ready for the invasion,it will be just like when they invaded the chili bowl I think it's great that he's running the race it's just all the baggage that comes with that crowd

Lol

Blacki-Suede 1/18/17 5:00 PM

I know for a fact that if Kody doesn't land a decent ride for the Little 500, there is a gentleman in the wings that will see to it he gets a decent seat.

Grocery Guy 1/18/17 5:09 PM

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Interpreter, it's amazing to see the second post to this fantastic announcement comes off so negative. Sit down A$$. Get ready for invasion. Invaded the Chili Bowl, which is now one of the biggest short track events of the year. How about taking the stance that by Tony running, all the eyes of the racing world will be on the Pay Less Little 500. It will take the race, ticket sales, sponsor impressions, and driver recognitions to a new high. It will put the City of Anderson on the map. It will help all the charities of the 500 Festival. Ask Rick Dawson if he cares about extra baggage with that crowd. How about record ticket sales. Think before you make such a sarcastic post next time.

interpreter66 1/18/17 5:18 PM

[quote=Grocery Guy;466103]Interpreter, it's amazing to see the second post to this fantastic announcement comes off so negative. Sit down A$$. Get ready for invasion. Invaded the Chili Bowl, which is now one of the biggest short track events of the year. How about taking the stance that by Tony running, all the eyes of the racing world will be on the Pay Less Little 500. It will take the race, ticket sales, sponsor impressions, and driver recognitions to a new high. It will put the City of Anderson on the map. It will help all the charities of the 500 Festival. Ask Rick Dawson if he cares about extra baggage with that crowd. How about record ticket sales. Think before you make such a sarcastic post next time.


I did think about it and everything you said that is a byproduct is great . But that is not what I spoke about .oh by the way isn't it great that we all can have an opinion.believe it or not I even respect your opinion

Charles Nungester 1/18/17 5:39 PM

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Kody deserves a top ride and Im sure there is one that will have him Excellent Proven Driver.

However if he was sitting back like he already had a ride.

As far as I know there was no plans to run any racing out of HAR shop until a little over a month ago. Sponsorship, Some parts and operations moved to CB/EZR/Hoffman in Indiana. There is no full time Crew Chief unlike the last 15 or more years.

From what I can tell, Tony called em and asked em. Rob agreed he'd build the car with Richard, Tom and Al and wrench it at the race.. So it was on. I think there's more reasons to it than to just run the race. MEAN GREEN/CR Brands, Lykins and Hoosier are putting up $$$ to have their name out on the USAC trail, What better way to assure that continues in the future than have Indycar and three time Nascar Champion all over the newspapers, racing shows etc?

As far as Circus? I know what it is, Im sure they don't want to put barriers around the pit etc. Fans that don't sit. But it's a pretty well established race as it is. Im sure there won't be too much difference and SMOKE even if he is there to win, Will have to beat 32 other cars out there and have a tad bit of luck to do it.

The only difference a Superstar has on it, Is instead of several thousand fans knowing who you are, It's several million. The exposure can be good and bad but Smoke just wants to be Smoke, IN Short track racer.

Going to say the same things when he drives at TQ at Columbus? :) THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS SPORT NEEDS. More exposure and more people wanting to get into it. TQ's are the second stage to a midget or sprint. :)

Pavement Dave 1/18/17 7:10 PM

It's great that he has plans on running this event and it gets me excited! Longbterm it could escalate the cost to be competitive in this race though.

interpreter66 1/18/17 8:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pavement Dave (Post 466120)
It's great that he has plans on running this event and it gets me excited! Longbterm it could escalate the cost to be competitive in this race though.

Dave I liked your post earlier before you edited it .I think you brought up some very good valid points that a lot of people were overlooking, due to the excitement of him racing !

sp6967 1/18/17 8:30 PM

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this smoke guy, isn't he one of those taxi cab drivers? good luck with that.

revjimk 1/18/17 8:46 PM

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He said at Chili Bowl he was planning to run over 70 dirt races, so like it or not, better get used to it
I think its a good thing: another driver, more investment. maybe new fans
If NASCAR fans standing up bugs you, just go ahead & tell them to sit down, hopefully they'll figure it out eventually

JordanBlanton 1/18/17 8:56 PM

So we're complaining (months before the race, for what that's worth) because a driver entering a big wingless sprint car race might bring along some fans who stand up more often than we'd like? Tomorrow somebody will be complaining about losing 'our guys' to other racing disciplines. I can't help but to see the link between these 2 ideas.

LB 1/18/17 9:07 PM

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Therealether 1/18/17 9:32 PM

It seems amomgst all the ********, half of you forgot that the man started in open wheel cars. He is a racer, be it NASCAR, Indycar, midgets, etc.... And racers race.

Pavement Dave 1/18/17 11:18 PM

I sounded negative and I didn't want to come across negative but I'll post my points again since you brought it up.
1. Will he bring professional tire changers which are faster and more experienced since he already has them on the payroll?
2. Will he get free tires since Hoosier was an announced sponsor? Everyone else will have a $2000 tire bill for the week.
3. He won't have any trouble getting a push truck since every push truck driver will have their eyes glued on him hoping to get a shot at pushing him.
4. He hasn't ran a pavement sprint car since 2002 at Las Vegas. He no doubt will be testing at the track several times prior to the race. Testing costs money but gives a huge advantage. That's ultimately what ended USAC pavement sprint car racing because of the cost to test.
5. Will he be on the same compound as everyone else? The tire manufacture for the race is also his sponsor.
All these factors could cause teams to loose interest in the race if it isn't what they feel is a level playing field. We can't afford to loose anymore cars from this race. We're barely getting 33 now.

interpreter66 1/18/17 11:26 PM

Dave people who know you know how passionate you are about that race,and that you would never do or say anything to harm that event

Charles Nungester 1/18/17 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pavement Dave (Post 466137)
I sounded negative and I didn't want to come across negative but I'll post my points again since you brought it up.
1. Will he bring professional tire changers which are faster and more experienced since he already has them on the payroll?
I doubt it, But a couple might be some of his shop guys. I think i read something where HAR did a pit stop in 28 seconds or something last year and thats four tires and fuel. Thats almost unheard of in Sprint's.

2. Will he get free tires since Hoosier was an announced sponsor? Everyone else will have a $2000 tire bill for the week.
Possibly, But Hoosier was a HAR sponsor before. Maybe reduced price. I doubt they're free unless Tony's got another deal. Not the only team by far to have a tire sponsor.

3. He won't have any trouble getting a push truck since every push truck driver will have their eyes glued on him hoping to get a shot at pushing him.
Meh. doubt it has much effect anyway.

4. He hasn't ran a pavement sprint car since 2002 at Las Vegas. He no doubt will be testing at the track several times prior to the race. Testing costs money but gives a huge advantage. That's ultimately what ended USAC pavement sprint car racing because of the cost to test.

I doubt this car hits a track prior to first practice day. If smoke gets his practice. It will probably be at something else. He has run Indoor Ft. Wayne and as far as I know ran pavement up till November in FL.

5. Will he be on the same compound as everyone else? The tire manufacture for the race is also his sponsor.

Even if there is no tire rule, WHich I doubt. There's only about two compounds to choose from. You'd want a set to last most of the distance between fuel stops.

All these factors could cause teams to loose interest in the race if it isn't what they feel is a level playing field. We can't afford to loose anymore cars from this race. We're barely getting 33 now.

It's the same car they ran last year and won with Swanson and the year prior with BC and years prior to that on USAC trail with Coons. The cars far from new. Its a wide chassis Beast with a couple modifications. If just came back from Powder Coat in Black instead of it's former Blue and has a few brake lines on it. :) As far as I can remember the Car was for sale and nobody bought it after USAC quit pavement sprints.

LB 1/18/17 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 466140)
It's the same car they ran last year and won with Swanson and the year prior with BC and years prior to that on USAC trail with Coons. The cars far from new. Its a wide chassis Beast with a couple modifications. If just came back from Powder Coat in Black instead of it's former Blue and has a few brake lines on it. :)

And i do believe , tracy hines in there somewhere

Pavement Dave 1/18/17 11:44 PM

Thanks for answering a few unknowns I was curious about. As far as testing the Hoffmans and Kody Swandon spent a full day testing at the track a few weeks prior to the event. I'm sure that will happen again. It would be the smart thing to do to get him some more seat time. But why does Hoosier need to sponsor guys and give them special deals for that particular race? They have the tire deal and you have to buy their brand. Therefore there is no need for them to sponsor guys. That's what I am confused about most.

Charles Nungester 1/18/17 11:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pavement Dave (Post 466143)
Thanks for answering a few unknowns I was curious about. As far as testing the Hoffmans and Kody Swandon spent a full day testing at the track a few weeks prior to the event. I'm sure that will happen again. It would be the smart thing to do to get him some more seat time.

Considering Smoke is running 80-90 races. Don't know if they're is time, Usually a track rental involves several teams to split the cost up a bit. The Tire bill for the Little 500 would be well more than 2g for everyone that wants to have a legitimate shot.
They said last year there were a couple cars they felt had a significant edge on them as far as speed. One dropped out with some problem and Kody caught the other and passed him in some traffic situation that presented itself and never looked back.

I always thought Smoke in Sprints and Midgets was better on Pavement anyway. Kinda like Gordon was. Yet he held his own on the dirt and won here and there. He's very adeptive. I think the last three times I seen him race, he won. FT. Wayne, A 360 race at Eldora and a indoor dirt show at Duqoin swapping sliders with BC. He getes a few practice sessions in on practice day. He'll be close :)

Racerrob 1/19/17 12:16 AM

No "special tires" as everyone has to buy their tires from the Hoosier truck at the track during Little 500 week. These tires are stamped by Anderson Speedway and I will be choosing my tires from the same lot as everyone else.

Yes we are planning one day of testing. We have run this car twice since 2010. Testing helps knock the rust off the crew chief just as much as the driver. We had one day of testing with Clauson and Swanson and nobody said a thing about it then.

I don't know at this point who will be changing tires this year. We lost our left rear man from last year but I plan on changing the right rear and I hope to have the right front man back again. I confirmed the same fueler as last year tonight. The spotter will be the same as last year as well. Other than the driver I don't see anyone from a NASCAR team being involved.

Lastly, just to be clear, Smoke neither offered us any money to drive nor did we ask for him to do so. He is bringing his talent and we are bringing ours and hopefully we can help check this race off his bucket race just as I was able to do so last year.

Hope this helps to put some of your fears to rest. BTW this will be my last race win or lose as I really need to devote time to the bank that I run.

Charles Nungester 1/19/17 12:36 AM

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Thanks Rob. Don't get anymore straight answers than that.

chop 1/19/17 8:33 AM

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The last year Tony ran short tracks, the year of the New York accident. Tony ran 2 SOD races. He showed up just as a racer. He won one race and finished 2nd or 3rd or the other. It was not like he crushed the local racers. He is an older guy just having fun in his retirement.
What I would worry about is him getting hurt. Nascar driver Jonny Benson is a local racer. At the end of his Nascar career he was racing east coast super mods. He had a real bad crash at Berlin and for the most part that was the end of his racing.
I do not care what tracks, events, types of cars he races. Just hope he has fun and is safe.

ossuks 1/19/17 8:53 AM

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This Tony Stewart guy has been best friends with Hoosier people for years. They grew up together, so them sponsoring Tony dates back to the beginning.

This years race will be no different than any other..there will be about 5 favorite....5 maybe winners....5 long shots! I would say Booby Santos is the favorite at 7/2 and Tony is co -3rd choice at 5-1. There is no out spending the field advantage at this race (as always the best equipment has the best chance).

What should make everyone happy is the real winner here is the fans and Rick Dawson. Tony adds to the interest level. If he wins many will cheer, if he drops out many will cheer, but the key word is "many". Anderson Speedway sits in a community that has suffered a huge economic loss, thus, Anderson Speedway has struggled. Maybe The last 2000 seats get sold , maybe the pit pass sells increase, maybe a few more sponsor jump on board, and maybe this is the difference in Anderson Speedway staying open!

trannyman 1/19/17 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pavement Dave (Post 466120)
It's great that he has plans on running this event and it gets me excited! Longbterm it could escalate the cost to be competitive in this race though.

Yes,it definitely will raise the costs.it'll already happened in one series.the superstars running local is a monetary boost,but it's only short term. what they leave behind,the local racers have to deal with.

racer-x 1/19/17 11:28 AM

I just ordered 2 tickets in section g-13 seat 1@2. Always said I was gonna go see a little 500 and no excuses this year.

The Hoffman car is without a doubt the baddest looking sprint car in my opinion!

Chase Hightower 1/19/17 12:20 PM

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I don't get how there is ANY negative effect. I'm canceling my annual motorcycle tripto D.C. on Memorial Day weekend to be there! 1 day of practice and hasn't been in a asphalt car in years and everybody's up in arms about unfair advantages? I'm confused, stoopid, or both I guess. It's a win-win for everybody, city, promoters, fans, other competitors. Now if Bentley Warren and Eric Gordon would come out of retirement!

ThePurple73 1/19/17 5:46 PM

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I think its great news and I am going to have to attend this year.
I hope I have to stand because the racing will be 2-3 abreast at times.

I remember Tony running on pavement in a silver crown car at Indy Raceway Park, it was a red #14 or 41 I think. Seemed he lapped the field 20 times, well maybe not that many, but he was really on it and won.

It adds a new element a new twist that will draw to the race.

kinser 1/19/17 6:51 PM

I can tell you from experience that if anyone thinks that this race is easy to win you couldn't be more wrong. I've won it ( as a crew chief) and there are just so many things that can go wrong. Mechanical failures, engine failures or one wrong split second decision by the driver and you are done. Then throw in people trying to block your pit entry or exit and people jamming your radios. Other than all of the above its a cakewalk !! LOL

Blacki-Suede 1/19/17 10:00 PM

As far as the Hoosier sponsor on Hoffman's car - Hoffman's have had a tire deal with Hoosier for years. I don't know the details, but Hoosier has been on their cars, their uniforms, along with other sponsors for a long time. As for pit stops - they got the job done before without NASCAR guys, and sprint cars don't have five lug wheels anyway. Track practice time? They did it last year and no one said a word. The Hoffman Team has a car and crew capable of winning the Little 500, Tony has the skill and desire to add a Little 500 win to his resume, but neither can control luck, and it takes luck, in addition to all those other things, to win the Little 500, so I say "Good Luck" to the Hoffman's and Smoke.

Charles Nungester 1/19/17 11:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacki-Suede (Post 466212)
As far as the Hoosier sponsor on Hoffman's car - Hoffman's have had a tire deal with Hoosier for years. I don't know the details, but Hoosier has been on their cars, their uniforms, along with other sponsors for a long time. As for pit stops - they got the job done before without NASCAR guys, and sprint cars don't have five lug wheels anyway. Track practice time? They did it last year and no one said a word. The Hoffman Team has a car and crew capable of winning the Little 500, Tony has the skill and desire to add a Little 500 win to his resume, but neither can control luck, and it takes luck, in addition to all those other things, to win the Little 500, so I say "Good Luck" to the Hoffman's and Smoke.


There's a video on Jackslash twitter feed of one of their pit stops. I think from BC's run a couple years ago. Anyway, it was 28 seconds from the time the car stopped to the time they put it down. Took a bit to get a truck and actually get pushed off.

Pavement Dave 1/20/17 12:05 AM

I posted a series of questions I had been asked by multiple people in an earlier post about Stewart's participation in the event. Rob Hoffman kindly put to rest these possible scenarios with legitimate answers to these questions. I also talked with Rick Dawson today and he also put to rest these questions and assured me that Stewart will be treated the same as the other racers and will receive no special treatment. Thanks to both for taking the time to do such.

throb 1/20/17 6:57 AM

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hell....I haven't been to the little 500 for probably 15 years. I purchased tickets and even sponsored a lap....ill make sure that my A$$ stays planted firmly in the seat though, as to not offend anyone.........

koolaid89 1/20/17 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sp6967 (Post 466126)
this smoke guy, isn't he one of those taxi cab drivers? good luck with that.

You mean this Tony??? Looks like a gasser to me. https://www.facebook.com/JackslashMe...37615736405868


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