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Lots of travel in there for GLSS. Got to wonder how many MI guys will truly travel that much. Sure looks like SOD is a better choice by keeping the series focus primarily in MI except for 1 show at Baer Field.

The amount of Michigan based teams that can handle a schedule like this is very short to say the least. I agree SoD will benefit from this. It will be interesting to see how many NRA guys travel with both series since none overlap.

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When I first looked at this I thought to myself, "What is this crap?" It looked like, to me, that GLSS was just going to leech off of the NRA. Last year, they kind of did that around Memorial Day weekend and the NRA had it right on their website that those races were NOT co-sanctioned.

But, the NRA now has changed ownership. MIracing (above) pointed out that no races overlap. So, when GLSS is racing a stand alone, NRA is not. And vice versa. Diplomacy at its finest. What a CONCEPT!

I tip my purple hat to these guys for coming up with a very fan friendly schedule with respect to the 360s. I still await the full SOD schedule to see where scheduling conflict could arise. But if SOD stays up north in MI, and NRA goes primarily to OH, it just might all work out well.

Here is the NRA docket for 2017 from tjslideways:

http://tjslideways.com/2017/01/02/20...ance-schedule/

2017 NRA Sprint invaders schedule
4-14 Limaland co sanctioned with GLSS
4-21 Limaland co sanctioned with GLSS
4-22 Waynesfield co sanctioned with GLSS
4-29 Fremont Speedway 305/360 challenge
5-5 Limaland
5-12 Attica Raceway 305/360 challenge
5-19 Limaland
5-26 Limaland co sanctioned with GLSS
5-27 Waynesfield co sanctioned with GLSS
5-28 TBA
6-9 Tri city co sanctioned with GLSS
6-10 Crystal co sanctioned with GLSS
6-17 Montpelier co sanctioned with GLSS
6-18 Waynesfield co sanctioned with GLSS
6-23 I-96 Speedway co sanctioned with GLSS
6-24 Thunderbird co sanctioned with GLSS
6-30 Limaland co sanctioned with GLSS
7-1 Fremont co sanctioned with GLSS
7-2 TBA
7-3 Waynesfield co sanctioned with GLSS
7-21 Tri city co sanctioned with GLSS
7-22 Merritt co sanctioned with GLSS
7-23 I-96 Speedway co sanctioned with GLSS
7-28 Limaland co sanctioned with GLSS
7-29 Montpelier co sanctioned with GLSS
8-11 Limaland championship night
8-12 Raindate
10-14 Eldora Speedway

* Schedule subject to change

On a sidebar, I also noted that while SOD has a few scheduled there, GLSS/NRA is staying away from Butler Speedway in 2017.

Someone asked on Facebook about no Butler. GLSS said he has left Aug 19 open for Butler but hasn't recieved confirmation.

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So far, it looks like Michigan dirt sprint racers and fans will have to choose which track and/or series to go to about 10 nights in 2017, not counting Butler or MTS. Is it spring yet?

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Originally Posted by nathans1012:
DATE - TRACK - LOCATION (CITY, STATE) - EVENT / NOTE
__________________________________________________ ____________
01. 4/14/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - 2017 NRA Season Opener & GLSS
02. 4/21/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - With NRA / GLSS
03. 4/22/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS
04. 5/26/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - NRA / GLSS Memorial Day Weekend Classic
05. 5/27/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS Memorial Day Weekend Classic
06. 5/28/17 - TBA - TBA - Memorial Day Weekend Classic
07. 6/9/17 - Tri-City Motor Speedway - Auburn, MI - GLSS Opener Weekend
08. 6/10/17 - Crystal Motor Speedway - Crystal, MI - GLSS Opening Weekend
09. 6/17/17 - Montpelier Motor Speedway - Montpelier, IN - NRA vs GLSS
10. 6/18/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS Ohio Speed Week Opener
11. 6/23/17 - I-96 Speedway - Lake Odessa, MI - NRA / GLSS
12. 6/24/17 - Thunderbird Raceway - Muskegon, MI - NRA / GLSS
13. 6/30/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - NRA / GLSS 4th Of July Weekend
14. 7/1/17 - Fremont Speedway - Fremont, OH - NRA / GLSS 4th of July Weekend
15. 7/2/17 - TBA - TBA - NRA / GLSS 4th of July Weekend
16. 7/3/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS 4th of July Weekend
17. 7/21/17 - Tri-City Motor Speedway- Auburn, MI - NRA / GLSS Mid Summer Triple Header
18. 7/22/17 - Merritt Speedway - Merritt, MI - NRA / GLSS Mid Summer Triple Header
19. 7/23/17 - I-96 Speedway - Lake Odessa, MI - NRA / GLSS Mid Summer Triple Header
20. 7/28/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - NRA / GLSS
21. 7/29/17 - Montpelier Motor Speedway - Montpelier, IN - NRA/ GLSS
22. 8/18/17 - Hartford Speedway - Hartford, MI - GLSS 360 Wing and MTS 410 Non-Wing
23. 8/25/17 - Manistee County Fairgrounds - Onekema, MI - GLSS 360 Wing Sprints
24. 8/26/17 - Thunderbird Raceway - Muskegon, MI - GLSS 360 Wing Sprints
25. 9/1/17 - Tri-City Motor Speedway - Auburn, MI - GLSS 360 Wing Sprints Labor Day Weekend

I pieced together what SOD has released with respect to their 2017 schedule. They have not released a full schedule yet. It is coming in bits and pieces. Bear in mind it is always subject to change. The 8/4 date has already switched from Hartford to Manistee Fairgrounds.

But one can compare the SOD dates with the GLSS dates:

4/29 Crystal
5/19 Hartford
5/20 Baer Field
6/10 Thunderbird
6/16 Hartford
6/17 Butler
6/24 Merritt
7/15 Crystal
7/22 Butler
8/4 Manistee
8/11 Hartford
8/12 Butler
8/19 Merritt
9/1 Hartford
9/2 Crystal

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Thanks Mike. You will also have to think about All Stars and Outlaws when you make your choice on their nights. Hopefully Joey will have MTS ready for release soon which will surely add more choices to make. Choices are good.

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Originally Posted by nathans1012:
Great Lakes Super Sprints (G.L.S.S.) 2017 Schedule
360 Wing Sprints

25 Races at 11 different tracks in 3 states.

2017 Schedule link - http://www.greatlakessupersprints.com/schedule

DATE - TRACK - LOCATION (CITY, STATE) - EVENT / NOTE
__________________________________________________ ____________
01. 4/14/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - 2017 NRA Season Opener & GLSS
02. 4/21/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - With NRA / GLSS
03. 4/22/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS
04. 5/26/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - NRA / GLSS Memorial Day Weekend Classic
05. 5/27/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS Memorial Day Weekend Classic
06. 5/28/17 - TBA - TBA - Memorial Day Weekend Classic
07. 6/9/17 - Tri-City Motor Speedway - Auburn, MI - GLSS Opener Weekend
08. 6/10/17 - Crystal Motor Speedway - Crystal, MI - GLSS Opening Weekend
09. 6/17/17 - Montpelier Motor Speedway - Montpelier, IN - NRA vs GLSS
10. 6/18/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS Ohio Speed Week Opener
11. 6/23/17 - I-96 Speedway - Lake Odessa, MI - NRA / GLSS
12. 6/24/17 - Thunderbird Raceway - Muskegon, MI - NRA / GLSS
13. 6/30/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - NRA / GLSS 4th Of July Weekend
14. 7/1/17 - Fremont Speedway - Fremont, OH - NRA / GLSS 4th of July Weekend
15. 7/2/17 - TBA - TBA - NRA / GLSS 4th of July Weekend
16. 7/3/17 - Waynesfield Motorsports Park - Waynesfield, OH - NRA / GLSS 4th of July Weekend
17. 7/21/17 - Tri-City Motor Speedway- Auburn, MI - NRA / GLSS Mid Summer Triple Header
18. 7/22/17 - Merritt Speedway - Merritt, MI - NRA / GLSS Mid Summer Triple Header
19. 7/23/17 - I-96 Speedway - Lake Odessa, MI - NRA / GLSS Mid Summer Triple Header
20. 7/28/17 - Limaland Motorsports Park - Lima, OH - NRA / GLSS
21. 7/29/17 - Montpelier Motor Speedway - Montpelier, IN - NRA/ GLSS
22. 8/18/17 - Hartford Speedway - Hartford, MI - GLSS 360 Wing and MTS 410 Non-Wing
23. 8/25/17 - Manistee County Fairgrounds - Onekema, MI - GLSS 360 Wing Sprints
24. 8/26/17 - Thunderbird Raceway - Muskegon, MI - GLSS 360 Wing Sprints
25. 9/1/17 - Tri-City Motor Speedway - Auburn, MI - GLSS 360 Wing Sprints Labor Day Weekend

Looking at the GLSS schedule on their website, the 8/18 date is now at I-96 Speedway vice Hartford Speedway.
http://www.greatlakessupersprints.com/schedule/

On a sidebar, Eric, I saw where Baer Field has MTS on their schedule for 9/9.
https://baerfieldmotorpark.com/1-4-dirt-racing/

I am sure this will all come out in the wash as time goes by.

Interesting that Hartford is not on GLSS schedule. I noticed that Butler and Hartford have these mini series with SOD and are not on GLSS schedule. Maybe just coincidence. Tri City and I96 are on GLSS but not SOD. Seems to be some tracks choosing sides this year where last year most tracks hosted both.

I'm curious to see Hartfords schedule as of now they look like they are taking a step back in sprint shows from last year unless something changes.

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Originally Posted by MIracing:
Interesting that Hartford is not on GLSS schedule. I noticed that Butler and Hartford have these mini series with SOD and are not on GLSS schedule. Maybe just coincidence. Tri City and I96 are on GLSS but not SOD. Seems to be some tracks choosing sides this year where last year most tracks hosted both.

I'm curious to see Hartfords schedule as of now they look like they are taking a step back in sprint shows from last year unless something changes.

GLSS leases/promotes the majority of all the tracks on their schedule in MI.

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Before I was fired from Hartford they were talking about scaling back the number of sprint races to be able to have more time to focus on their son who is battling leukemia.

Last year SOD was pissed off because they weren't involved with the "King of Michigan" deal (All-Stars, GLSS, & Non-Win MTS). Well SOD thinks they have the naming rights to "King of Michigan" and was not going to "allow" Hartford to continue the use of the name. So I'm guessing Naida @ SOD brought some sponsor dollars to the table which is their 4 race series and insinuated to Hartford he expected some loyalty which booted GLSS.

Both GLSS & SOD are a $9500 purse so it isn't like either organisation is costing the track more (unlike All-Stars that cost more and more every year...).

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Originally Posted by Spi-nex:
Before I was fired from Hartford they were talking about scaling back the number of sprint races to be able to have more time to focus on their son who is battling leukemia.

Last year SOD was pissed off because they weren't involved with the "King of Michigan" deal (All-Stars, GLSS, & Non-Win MTS). Well SOD thinks they have the naming rights to "King of Michigan" and was not going to "allow" Hartford to continue the use of the name. So I'm guessing Naida @ SOD brought some sponsor dollars to the table which is their 4 race series and insinuated to Hartford he expected some loyalty which booted GLSS.

Both GLSS & SOD are a $9500 purse so it isn't like either organisation is costing the track more (unlike All-Stars that cost more and more every year...).

GLSS has a higher overall purse that is covered by the series or sponsors, $11,000. Basically they match the SOD purse since tracks know they don't have to pay more than that. But in many cases GLSS is leasing the track like at I-96, Thunderbird, etc. Below is from their schedule press release.

Barry Marlow, owner of GLSS and Ron Hammond, the new owner of the NRA Sprint Invaders have taken great steps to strengthen 360 racing in the Tri-State area. This year all regular GLSS races will again be $1,750.00 to win with a total purse of $11,100.00 and this year all regular NRA races will pay $1,650.00 to win with a total purse of $11,100.00. Another change this season will be both series will be racing on the Hoosier MED RR tire.

Bummed to hear you are not with Hartford anymore as you always did a fine job promoting them.

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Originally Posted by staggerman:
GLSS has a higher overall purse that is covered by the series or sponsors, $11,000. Basically they match the SOD purse since tracks know they don't have to pay more than that. But in many cases GLSS is leasing the track like at I-96, Thunderbird, etc. Below is from their schedule press release.

Barry Marlow, owner of GLSS and Ron Hammond, the new owner of the NRA Sprint Invaders have taken great steps to strengthen 360 racing in the Tri-State area. This year all regular GLSS races will again be $1,750.00 to win with a total purse of $11,100.00 and this year all regular NRA races will pay $1,650.00 to win with a total purse of $11,100.00. Another change this season will be both series will be racing on the Hoosier MED RR tire.

Bummed to hear you are not with Hartford anymore as you always did a fine job promoting them.

Total purse doesn't always equate to what it costs the track. For example, American Ethanol supplemented their Late Model tour purse $5,000 per event leaving the track a $10,000 obligation out of the $15,000. I have no idea if the same thing is happening with GLSS or not. If I had to guess, they are NOT supplementing. Just wanted to point out that purse totals don't always reflect the full responsibility of the track.

I got to meet Barry and work with GLSS last year and they went through some growing pains, but they are great great people there who want to do whatever it takes to makes things work. They communicate very well on race day which is huge in making a show go off smoothly.

I don't think we should compare the cost of ASCOC to SOD or GLSS. Not the same league. No disrespect to any of these sanctions

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Originally Posted by flagboy55:
I don't think we should compare the cost of ASCOC to SOD or GLSS. Not the same league. No disrespect to any of these sanctions

Nobody was? I said the cost cost ASCOC continued to increase while SOD & GLSS are a much more affordable option. $38k for ASCOC vs $9500 for a local track. The "administrative cost" of ASCOC would pay for a SOD or GLSS show and in Michigan SOD will usually have more people than either of the other 2 options in stand alone events. So for a track the return per ticket is more appealing to have a GLSS or SOD event. You're right they are apples to oranges and should not be compared, but I still don't see where anyone was comparing the cost.

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Living in west Michigan, if I am going to take a 4-5 hour car ride to see a sprint car race. That is how long it would take to travel to the GLSS races in Ohio. I am going to travel to Indiana tracks and watch some non wing races or BOSS shows.