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cecil98 9/14/08 9:19 AM

Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
I found it a little ODD that one of the announcers in the booth and Chris Nunn in the infield were promoting events that are in direct conflict with next weeks final points night and ,arguably, the biggest event of the year at the Burg, the Oct. 4th $10K to win MSCS show. Anybody else pick up on that? I know Dave is an easy going guy but, come on, he's trying to get butts in the seats for two important weeks coming up and these guys are talking about Modified Nationals (or something like that) on Oct. 4th and the Four Crown next weekend at Eldora etc. I ,as a promotor, could justify and tolerate plugs for an upcoming All-Star show, but, any other track and any other event that is in conflict with my upcoming programs would be completely off limits. I guess if it doesn't bother Dave, it shouldn't bother me! :confused:

smith19 9/14/08 9:48 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
That's right buddy,so shut it up......lol

cecil98 9/14/08 11:03 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smith19 (Post 64089)
That's right buddy,so shut it up......lol

ok, smith19, i'll quit crabbin'!!! :O:

Mud Packer 9/14/08 11:30 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cecil98 (Post 64085)
I found it a little ODD that one of the announcers in the booth and Chris Nunn in the infield were promoting events that are in direct conflict with next weeks final points night and ,arguably, the biggest event of the year at the Burg, the Oct. 4th $10K to win MSCS show. Anybody else pick up on that? I know Dave is an easy going guy but, come on, he's trying to get butts in the seats for two important weeks coming up and these guys are talking about Modified Nationals (or something like that) on Oct. 4th and the Four Crown next weekend at Eldora etc. I ,as a promotor, could justify and tolerate plugs for an upcoming All-Star show, but, any other track and any other event that is in conflict with my upcoming programs would be completely off limits. I guess if it doesn't bother Dave, it shouldn't bother me! :confused:


Dave maybe a really smart promoter. By announcing that the Mortified Monster Mash, or whatever it is called, is going to be added to the Action Track schedule along with the Hut Hundred it certainly changed my mind on going to Terre Haute. It probably will also change other folks minds as well and the Burg stands to be the benefactor.

Chris Nunn 9/14/08 11:37 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
We were working as a seperate entity last night, not as Lawrenceburg Speedway officials. We were working under the BAS Racing Network and the ASCOC Banner which was broadcast worldwide over the web. It was our job to promote the upcoming events that will be aired over the BAS Racing Network. Chad did his job for Lawrenceburg promoting their upcoming events, and I think everything went very smoothly, and everyone enjoyed themselves.

Chris, who thinks that everything went well last night, and people just have to find SOMETHING to nitpick on. (Sorry Chuck, I stole your gimmick)

AERO410SCJA 9/14/08 11:43 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Not other one (don't basements flood)

Chris Nunn 9/14/08 11:49 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Man Aero, I think you lost me on that one

cecil98 9/16/08 5:21 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Nunn (Post 64115)
We were working as a seperate entity last night, not as Lawrenceburg Speedway officials. We were working under the BAS Racing Network and the ASCOC Banner which was broadcast worldwide over the web. It was our job to promote the upcoming events that will be aired over the BAS Racing Network. Chad did his job for Lawrenceburg promoting their upcoming events, and I think everything went very smoothly, and everyone enjoyed themselves.

Chris, who thinks that everything went well last night, and people just have to find SOMETHING to nitpick on. (Sorry Chuck, I stole your gimmick)

you were working as a "separate entity" at a racetrack that has important events coming up in direct conflict with events your were promoting on "said" racetracks PA system. Thankfully for you, it was Dave promoting, because I would have thrown your @rse out of the place. At the very least, your "separate entity" would be unwelcome next year and I would also set the All-Star announcer
straight. That was crap, Chris. You should've been promoting Final Points Night next week and the $10k MSCS show on Oct 4th.

I don't know why I'm upset over this because I don't have a dog in this fight. You would just need to find a way separate your promotions of other tracks and events on your webcast from what you are promoting live over the track PA system if I was the promotor. I didn't say I would toss the All-Stars. I would allow them to promote their upcoming events (if there were any) but, not some modified show or Four Crown that is in conflict with my dates. That's all.

Chris Nunn 9/16/08 8:44 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
And that would have been a TERRIBLE business decision on your part. When you bring in a sanctioning body, they have all rights to promote any upcoming races that they have coming up. Most of the fans that follow the tour expect to hear where and when the sanction will be coming up next. When we have USAC, or the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series, or the Battle of the Bluegrass or MSCS we let them promote their upcoming events, because they bring in a lot of their out of town fans. Dont persecute me for something that frankly I dont have any control over. I dont really think the Eldora UMP Fall Nationals will drastically affect Lawrenceburg because all tracks are not paying UMP Points for Modifieds and there are no Late Models at Lawrenceburg. And the event at KC Raceway, the DTWC will not be ran AGAINST Lawrenceburg at all. So basically what race were we promoting that will have any bearing on Lawrenceburg?? It is Chad Cunningham's job to promote Lawrenceburg Speedway's upcoming events, not mine, nor DC's. If I was working FOR Lawrenceburg, I would have been pimping the hell out of the final points night and Fun Fest. The BAS Racing Network is not just an ASCOC radio network, it is broadcast all over the state of Ohio. So he had obligations to plug his upcoming events on the radio.


Jesus

Chris Nunn 9/16/08 8:48 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
By the way here are the dates for the Burgs Upcoming shows

October
4 Special Event:MSCS Lawrenceburg Nationals $10k to win Sprints, AMSA


9 - 12 13 th Annual Fun Fest


Now compare this to the dates.

On the 4th, you notice there are no UMP Modifieds or Late Models scheduled, so therefore no direct conflict.

And the next race we were plugging is the DTWC which happens to be ran on October 16th, 17th, and 18th. Which happens to be a night where the Burg is NOT RACING.

So basically, what is your gripe??

Dave Rudisell 9/16/08 8:54 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
My gripe is that we have had the Monster Modified Show for 2 years now, The other track stole our named race. Anyone know of legal rights like that?
Chris, Chad did plug all of our upcoming shows when he had the chance to. I myself did'nt hear much announcing, but what i did hear sounded great from everyone involved.
Take care, Dave

Dave Rudisell 9/16/08 8:56 PM

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next year we are having the Hut Hut 100.......:rolling

SHORTBUS 9/16/08 9:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell (Post 64478)
next year we are having the Hut Hut 100.......:rolling

YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO RUN WINGED MIDGETS :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Dirtfan 9/16/08 9:05 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell (Post 64478)
next year we are having the Hut Hut 100.......:rolling


Goood Luck with THAT:headbang

Chris Nunn 9/16/08 9:05 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
I think ours is technically called the Monster Energy Drink Modified Classic. Monster Energy had a say in the naming rights of our race. :(

fishnman 9/16/08 9:08 PM

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Aw hell, I have an idea. Let's talk about one of the better wing shows I have witnessed in awhile.

Dave Rudisell 9/16/08 9:12 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Nunn (Post 64485)
I think ours is technically called the Monster Energy Drink Modified Classic. Monster Energy had a say in the naming rights of our race. :(

Monster Energy Drink was also our sponsor, I'll have to do some research about naming rights and such, not really a big deal, i thought it was more of a common courtesy not to name a event the same as another ones race, but i guess those days are over. When i named our race i researched it and found no other such names for events like ours. So i thought i had something cool, and BAM, the powers that be at THAT stole it. classless if you ask me.
Dave

Dave Rudisell 9/16/08 9:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fishnman (Post 64489)
Aw hell, I have an idea. Let's talk about one of the better wing shows I have witnessed in awhile.

Are you refering to me eating my wings for lunch at Hoosiers? That was a show also. :rolling I have to say it was a great show Saturday.

mtek56 9/16/08 9:24 PM

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:applaud::applaud::applaud::applaud:
Quote:

Originally Posted by fishnman (Post 64489)
Aw hell, I have an idea. Let's talk about one of the better wing shows I have witnessed in awhile.

Agree The racing was excellent for a wing show.

Chris Nunn 9/16/08 9:30 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
To be honest, I dont think Mike King, or Davey Hamilton even knew you had a race named that. You have to consider the source. The only person that might have known was Tim Wolfe, the WolfPack promoter. And myself, but I dont have any say in what we name our races. Now if someone comes up with another Midwest Modified Nationals I will be pissed..lol

psullivan 9/16/08 9:34 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rudisell (Post 64492)
Monster Energy Drink was also our sponsor, I'll have to do some research about naming rights and such, not really a big deal, i thought it was more of a common courtesy not to name a event the same as another ones race, but i guess those days are over. When i named our race i researched it and found no other such names for events like ours. So i thought i had something cool, and BAM, the powers that be at THAT stole it. classless if you ask me.
Dave

Dave, the answer is that you register the name -- I think this is a step USAC took (or was considering) when NAMARS sanctioned a "Hut Hundred" at Terre Haute (and ,it is a race that really will be lost to history) At IMS you will see that everything "Greatest Spectacle in Racing" Racing Capital of the World" The Brickyard" "Carb Day" even "Gasoline Alley" have been trademarked by the Speedway - and the name of their events

Pat Sullivan

Dirtfan 9/16/08 9:37 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Thank You Pat. See you Friday?

psullivan 9/16/08 9:39 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Yes I'm really looking forward to it although said that the season has come to an end and Mike and Judy got hit so hard with the weather this year

Chris Nunn 9/16/08 9:41 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Thanks Pat, I also didnt know exactly how to go about that. Now I need to go regester..lol

ShaneMugavin57 9/16/08 10:07 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Thanks for stopping me Chris and introducing yourself. Sorry I couldn't talk longer but had to get the car ready for the feature.

Danny Burton 9/16/08 10:23 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneMugavin57 (Post 64514)
Thanks for stopping me Chris and introducing yourself. Sorry I couldn't talk longer but had to get the car ready for the feature.

Shane, thanks for not running over me before you went out on the track.:thumb

Good to see you back at the 'burg.

Charles Nungester 9/16/08 10:28 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Nevermind. My line was stolen. I didn't have it trademarked* or registered*

Chuck, dat out the window.

Chris Nunn 9/16/08 10:40 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
haha...lol

ShaneMugavin57 9/16/08 10:52 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Burton (Post 64517)
Shane, thanks for not running over me before you went out on the track.:thumb

Well Danny it was not for lack of trying. I think you have gotten quicker or I have slowed down some.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Burton (Post 64517)
Good to see you back at the 'burg.

Thank you I heard this all night and it really suprised me. The facillity is beautiful and is ran top notch. Unfortunately my pocket book will not have me their often. I did feel that we showed we can be competitive though so let me know when you win the lotto lol.

Dirtfan 9/16/08 10:55 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Shane, sorry that i missed you at the Burg, my pleasure meeting you under the 'A".

cecil98 9/17/08 7:33 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
On the 4th, you notice there are no UMP Modifieds or Late Models scheduled, so therefore no direct conflict....Chris Nunn

I'm having a race and some other track is having a race on the same night. I don't care what kind of cars. Some people are simply "race fans". I wouldn't want you spelling out other "options" to those types of fans on my PA system while they're sitting in my grandstand. The only way you get by with that is if you're promoting an event on a weekend that I'm dark. I guarantee you Earl Baltes wouldn't tolerate it when he was running Eldora, either. Like I said earlier, promote on your webcast all you want but, turn the PA mic off while you're doing it. Hypothetically speaking that is! LOL

cecil98 9/17/08 7:39 AM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Oh, I forgot! yes, it was a great show!! the last lap was worth the price of admission! what a move by Blake Feese!

ShaneMugavin57 9/17/08 9:43 PM

Re: Lawrenceburg All-Star Show
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 64532)
Shane, sorry that i missed you at the Burg, my pleasure meeting you under the 'A".

U2 Dan. The girlfriend and I did venture to the 'A' while hot laps were going on for the sprints and saw not one familliar face. I was probably lucky though in hindsight because that wouldn't of been a good idea to introduce her to all those young studs that normally sit up there.:O::thumb:respect:


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