USAC SpeedSTR cars
 

Has anyone heard of these before ?
I'm behind the times but have been looking for nonwing racing within a reasonable distance and I found these.
Tobias SpeedSTR cars.
They are a clean looking midget, modern body kinda and feature,
Built by Tobias, modified legends.
1250 lbs w/o driver
150 c.i. mopar on meth, hilborn injection, self starting
Winters quick change rear.
Turn Key car cost: $ 18186.63
The best advertisement for them is that Billy Pauch East Coast legend is driving them for fun. So are a few other modified guys.
There is also a class called the USAC SpeedSTR series.
Go to Speedway Entertainment website to see more.

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You to youtube and check out Action Track USA. They run them and Non wing Micro 600s every week. I believe on Wednesday nights and have a packed house of cars and fans. Anyway some video of em is on Youtube.

You Tube Video

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That track is 2.5 hr's from me, not to bad. Its funny Accord speedway where they run the NEWS sprints is also 2.5 hrs from me. Both according to mapquest.

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I've seen them at Path Valley and Action Track USA. They put on a pretty good show, I thought they were a bit better at Path Valley mainly because of the larger track size.

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The SpeedSTR cars run regularly on Wednesday during the summer at Action Track USA at the Kutztown Fairgrounds and draw a good field weekly along with the 600 mini sprints who draw between 35 to 45 cars themselves. What is interesting with the SpeedSTR class is the diversity of the field with former and current modified standouts Kenny Brightbill, Billy Pauch Sr and Jr, Jeff Strunk and Tim Buckwalter and many others along with open wheel drivers such as Steve Buckwalter and Brian Montieth and late model drivers such as Rick Eckert running these affordable cars for some good purses. They run a real good show with a great crowd on hand weekly. Also this year a new track in Delaware named Silo Speedway will be opening on Friday nights with the SpeedSTR's scheduled to run there also.

Bruce Eckel :23:

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Back It

You thinking about starting a race car museum up there???

The Speedsters are a clandestine Midget class sanctioned bu USAC up in the north east. Basically a Focus Midget powered by a Chrysler Neon Motor.. Speed way magazine gave them a nice write up a couple of years ago..I think they are like legend cars in that you race their car or don't race. Good thing I guess but then you get back to twenty grand race cars that could be built for seven grand by the individual.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by Backitin:
Has anyone heard of these before ?
I'm behind the times but have been looking for nonwing racing within a reasonable distance and I found these.
Tobias SpeedSTR cars.
They are a clean looking midget, modern body kinda and feature,
Built by Tobias, modified legends.
1250 lbs w/o driver
150 c.i. mopar on meth, hilborn injection, self starting
Winters quick change rear.
Turn Key car cost: $ 18186.63
The best advertisement for them is that Billy Pauch East Coast legend is driving them for fun. So are a few other modified guys.
There is also a class called the USAC SpeedSTR series.
Go to Speedway Entertainment website to see more.

The Tobias SpeedSTR has been around for several years now. They race weekly in the Summer @ Kutztown, they have a traveling series & they are fairly popular in Quebec. Check out http://thecushion.com/join-now/, they have Kutztown's weekly program on their website's On Demand feature from the last 2 seasons. Kutztown is awesome! Especially the 600's.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
You to youtube and check out Action Track USA. They run them and Non wing Micro 600s every week. I believe on Wednesday nights and have a packed house of cars and fans. Anyway some video of em is on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F4F_E6Z6X8

Now imagine these race cars on a 3/8 mile race track? Would the racing be as exciting? Size is everything in small car with Low Horsepower. How do we get some smaller race tracks in Indiana?:)

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Now imagine these race cars on a 3/8 mile race track? Would the racing be as exciting? Size is everything in small car with Low Horsepower. How do we get some smaller race tracks in Indiana?:)

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

Why would I want to imagine that? Maybe put some tires at both ends of LBurgs Front straight and let em race a 2/10ths mile.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
Why would I want to imagine that? Maybe put some tires at both ends of LBurgs Front straight and let em race a 2/10ths mile.

Charles the old L Burg would be Ideal for the little cars we put on some pretty good races with the 1200 cars when it was a 1/4 mile. The new track is just to darned big for this type of car to race on and put on a wheel to wheel race. It generally ended up at the new track with every body racing themselves with 5 car lengths between each car. Mini Sprints don't race there anymore.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Theres no way you could build a brand new car for the 7000.00 mentioned. Not the quality of a tobias car. They were known for years for quality modifieds.
A lot of the tracks around here are 1/4 mile.
I would imagine the modified guys are into because it's way more fun then wheeling a $ 50,000.00 mudbus.
ANY nonwing racing around here is worth getting excited over. I'd go watch 35 STR cars race around our local track every weekend spec class or not. As it is you couldn't get me out to a local track, nothing but mudbus's and fenders.
I have a good feeling that these cars will be around for a while, tobias also started the slingshot series years ago also a spec class and going very strong.
For Sale, one slightly used race car museum. lightly crashed.

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Charles the old L Burg would be Ideal for the little cars we put on some pretty good races with the 1200 cars when it was a 1/4 mile. The new track is just to darned big for this type of car to race on and put on a wheel to wheel race. It generally ended up at the new track with every body racing themselves with 5 car lengths between each car. Mini Sprints don't race there anymore.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I disagree, Old burg was still way to big for em. I'll not go into the not liking Mini's etc. Just to say the only time I seen em I found them exciting was at the Old Portsmouth under the bridge that the front straight and back straight were only 50ft apart. They backed em in, got em sideways, and pulled left fronts if not both there.

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One thing I know about minisprints is that mine is as useless as teats on a boar hog around here.
The smart thing for me to do would be to get a 600 micro and race at Hamlin PA. Its a nice track and they have a rookie class that would be fun for my daughter. Plus its only a hour or so away.

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Originally Posted by Backitin:
The smart thing for me to do would be to get a 600 micro and race at Hamlin PA. Its a nice track and they have a rookie class that would be fun for my daughter. Plus its only a hour or so away.

You know of Hamlin Speedway, but you've never heard of Kutztown? You don't get out much, do you? The SpeedSTR weekly program @ Kutztown pays $2000 to win, this is why so many Modified, Sprint Car & Late Model guys have one. Also, they race on Wednesday nights in the Summer, while school is out. They are a cheap race car & Richie Tobias has a very good purse! In comparison, Albany-Saratoga Speedway in Malta NY is a Big Block Modified weekly track, the Mods race for $1500 to win. Cost of a Big Block Mod is a hell of a lot more than a SpeedSTR!

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
I disagree, Old burg was still way to big for em. I'll not go into the not liking Mini's etc. Just to say the only time I seen em I found them exciting was at the Old Portsmouth under the bridge that the front straight and back straight were only 50ft apart. They backed em in, got em sideways, and pulled left fronts if not both there.

Charles

You might think The old L was too big for Mini Sprints, But the Mini Sprints were turning laps as fast or faster than the 410 Sprints that were running there at the same time. Not so at the new track. Big tracks need big Horsepower and big Horsepower cost Big Bucks. If we get the track size down to a 1/4 mile all of a sudden low dollar teams become competitive and car count and crowds will increase.

The day of the V8 Motor is over in the real world, replaced by very efficient smaller 4 and even 3 cylinder motors. When people go to the race track to watch stock cars race they want to see how their car perform at the race track. Nobody but me still drive Crown Vic's and Impala's.:)

Old L Burg was an example of where track size takes away the horsepower advantage. When little 200 HP Mini Sprints could clock the same times as 800 HP Sprints you can assume it was probably something to do with track size. The new track is great for Sprint Cars and Late model's but finding support classes to also race is a challenge.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Actually I'm out most the time. I spend most of my time off grid in the Adirondack's.
When I am in PA, well we had speedway racing going on.
I don't agree with the v/8 comments, they'll never go out of style.
People come out to see the big blocks, and tolerate the four cylinder stocks because they have to.
Theres nothing like a 8, that's why 410's are top of the food chain, not midgets.

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Old L Burg was an example of where track size takes away the horsepower advantage. When little 200 HP Mini Sprints could clock the same times as 800 HP Sprints you can assume it was probably something to do with track size.
Honest Dad himself:6::6:

The lap times were the same, but you are also talking about a car that once you pulled out on the track you didn't lift as compared to one you had to. While I preferred the old track, it did race much larger than it was.

That being said and more to the point of the original post, i'm surprised that more people didn't contact Mr. Tobias when going the D2 route, seems like he has an entire bolt in/proven engine package there. I enjoy watching the Speedstr videos online.

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Originally Posted by Kellen Conover:
The lap times were the same, but you are also talking about a car that once you pulled out on the track you didn't lift as compared to one you had to. While I preferred the old track, it did race much larger than it was.

That being said and more to the point of the original post, i'm surprised that more people didn't contact Mr. Tobias when going the D2 route, seems like he has an entire bolt in/proven engine package there. I enjoy watching the Speedstr videos online.

I agree, the STR's really look like a pretty good deal. In the 70's tobias speed built a great modified and I would imagine the STR is a great little car. Toby Tobias was also a very good driver eventually losing his life at Flemington in a USAC sprintcar.
I will say if you were to run one where the modified guys are, good luck. Just take Billy Pauch for example. Most people consider him the best to ever wheel a modified. Ray Everham was asked in a interview a while back who was the best driver he ever saw. Everyone expected him to say Gordon, he said Pauch.

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Backitin ............if you live in the PA....NY area , your just not looking hard enough ..Empire Lightning sprints has a decent schedule in the NY area at some really good tracks and there is a small group that is supposed to be having a couple of races at GVAT sometime this year .......
There are races for lightning sprints happening in your area !!!!!

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Are there nonwing races in my area ? Theres one with Empire sprints hardly worth buying tires for. Might be up in Canada, I was asked not to come back the last time I was there.
I wont bother running winged, I'd rather find something else to do.
I'm just saying its a sad state of affairs when theres only one track within 2 1/2 hrs of me that runs wingless and that's 600's.

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Originally Posted by Kellen Conover:
The lap times were the same, but you are also talking about a car that once you pulled out on the track you didn't lift as compared to one you had to. While I preferred the old track, it did race much larger than it was.

That being said and more to the point of the original post, i'm surprised that more people didn't contact Mr. Tobias when going the D2 route, seems like he has an entire bolt in/proven engine package there. I enjoy watching the Speedstr videos online.

Kellen

Now you went and told the rest of the story, those wings allowed flat out racing and we went just as fast in the turns as we did down the straits. The problem with that track was it was almost round when you got to the top and the turns and straightaway kind of blended together. Mini Sprints can still flat foot the big track too butt they just don't have enough HP to get up to Sprint Car speed. :)

Brownstown is another track that Mini Sprints can also approach Sprint Car lap times but that is for other reasons.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Originally Posted by DAD:
Kellen

Now you went and told the rest of the story, those wings allowed flat out racing and we went just as fast in the turns as we did down the straits. The problem with that track was it was almost round when you got to the top and the turns and straightaway kind of blended together. Mini Sprints can still flat foot the big track too butt they just don't have enough HP to get up to Sprint Car speed. :)

Brownstown is another track that Mini Sprints can also approach Sprint Car lap times but that is for other reasons.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

With all due respect. Speed doesn't equal good racing anywhere in any class. The midgets sometimes out qualify the sprints at Eldora too, At least they can ride a cushion without dying for half a lap or run above it in some cases. Not saying the mini's can't have good racing but all out there running qualifying laps is not racing. I've seen it in all classes at some point. But on quarters and larger, Thats all I've ever seen in WINGED MINI SPRINTS.

On the smaller tracks where they have to lift, back it in, pull the left front, they can be cool.

THEY'LL never be shake the ground all you can do to control em Non Winged 410 sprint cars, with some moves like Tmez did in his heat from sixth to second in two laps last weekend. Like I said, put some tires in the middle of each end of the front straight at Burg and they'd probably put on a hell of a show. Tight corners and long straights. WOOHOO. As for old burg, new burg, Waynesfield. I honestly would rather watch puddles dry. No offense meant, but unless there was someone I knew or worked on the car myself. I can't get excited by em on a bigger track.

Any smaller type of car is going to be neat on a track like Action Track USA, That race I said I seen at Portsmouth OH on that narrow skinny 1/3rd mi. Gray play doh clay track, with straights so close they had a corner flagman on each end also ran a 410 All Star show that night. Keegan and others in a Winged Sprint there were flat out awesome to watch too. Totally backed in and wheel standing off the corners not flat footed straight as a arrow driving.

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Backitin...........The boy's in NY aren't a big fan of nonwing ......you could probably run with the Outlaw Midget Series ...I believe the lightning sprints have run with them before .
We will be trying to make the 4 wingless shows at Waynesfield .....thats all I know about that's even remotely close to us.........ARDC is letting lightning sprints run with them , but there is a wide HP gap there ..
And what did you do to be told not to come back ??????

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I used to be a bit crazy in my younger years, coming back from a speedway race in Quebec we decided to put on a fireworks show just short of the border. It didn't go well.

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I've seen the SpeedSTR's at both Grandview (1/3rd mile) and New Egypt (7/16ths mile) and both are too big for them to produce good racing. They are best when they are on 1/5th & 1/4th of a mile track as Kutztown and Path Valley are. Kutztown is a tad tight for the SpeedSTR's but most of the time they put on really good shows their.

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester:
You to youtube and check out Action Track USA. They run them and Non wing Micro 600s every week. I believe on Wednesday nights and have a packed house of cars and fans. Anyway some video of em is on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F4F_E6Z6X8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G37qvw-3jhU

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