BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Check out a new Badger Midget Auto Racing production based Honda K24 engine by Ray Racing Enterprises set to debut this May at Angell Park Speedway. This engine was on display at the Race & Performance Expo last weekend in Schaumburg, IL.

Engine Specs:

Honda K24A1
Salvage Yard Block and Cylinder Head (No porting)
Honda OEM Crankshaft (Forged)
Engler Injection
MSD 6214 Ignition
Dry Sump
Schoenfeld Headers

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

How much do money you have in this?

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

...& are they for sale & what would that amount be? (I sold my Gaerte...lol. So I'm ALL in...)

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

For everyone asking about price, this engine was built in-house by and for Ray Racing Enterprises for competition in the Badger Midget Auto Racing Association. It is our prototype Honda 2.4 liter engine and is not currently being offered for sale. Once we feel our development work is complete, we may offer these engines for sale.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

I will be checking the classifieds. "Puppy"; I don't know if you will get an answer...

So you put an engine package in the classified section but it's not for sale ???? Am I the only 1 that sees this strange ???

What cams did you use? Vtec?

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

We were just wondering on price for "comparison"..

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by Pack:
So you put an engine package in the classified section but it's not for sale ???? Am I the only 1 that sees this strange ???

This engine package was never listed in the classifieds. This post is on the main IOW forum.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by Puppy:
We were just wondering on price for "comparison"..

Dancing around the question with no answer should give you the answer you're looking for.... lol

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by xoxide:
Dancing around the question with no answer should give you the answer you're looking for.... lol

Nobody is dancing around any question. This engine has never been advertised for sale. It was never intended to be sold. If and when I am personally satisfied that I am ready to produce enough engines to satisfy demand, and when I am satisfied that I am in a position to professionally maintain any engines I have sold, I may decide to offer them for sale. I have no intention nor desire to promise something that I am not in a position to deliver. There are enough people in business today who make promises they cannot keep.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

I was commenting strictly on Puppy's question, not whether or not you were planning to sell them. Shouldn't be a tough question (or secret information) in what you roughly have into the build for comparison between other engine platforms.

So give all of us here just one good reason why should Mr. Ray tell you how much he's spent developing this engine package?
Its his money and he can do with it as he sees fit. So long as it falls into the rules package it will be allowed to race. Who cares if it cost $1,500, or $50,000.
I applaud the ingenuity.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by LocalYokel:
So give all of us here just one good reason why should Mr. Ray tell you how much he's spent developing this engine package?
Its his money and he can do with it as he sees fit. So long as it falls into the rules package it will be allowed to race. Who cares if it cost $1,500, or $50,000.
I applaud the ingenuity.

I'm not picking on him Local, was just curious to see what he had in this economical package out of curiosity. If he doesn't want to tell us, thats fine.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by Pack:
So you put an engine package in the classified section but it's not for sale ???? Am I the only 1 that sees this strange ???

this isn't the classified section

Sorry I thought I was in the classifieds section when posted. I'm looking to get into the D2 class and have looked all over both sections getting info and trying to find places to race. Again sorry my mistake

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by racer5c:
this isn't the classified section

This site also says its dedicated to nonwing racing but we deal with them also, nothings perfect. Or always where it should be.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

[quote=Backitin;439733]This site also says its dedicated to nonwing racing but we deal with them also, nothings perfect. Or always where

If you read the whole thread you would see that someone was complaining about it BEING IN THE CLASSIFIED SECTION which it wasn't I was pointing that out to them

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

xoxide
“I was commenting strictly on Puppy's question, not whether or not you were planning to sell them. Shouldn't be a tough question (or secret information) in what you roughly have into the build for comparison between other engine platforms.”

So in today’s message board world, if someone asks how much you make, or how much you paid for your house, or how much your ex got in the divorce, you are obligated to answer? For many people these questions wouldn’t necessarily be tough to answer or even top secret, but they might be considered “none of your business.”


Puppy
“We were just wondering on price for "comparison"..

One problem with answering this question on a message board is - the REAL answer isn’t as simple as typing in a dollar sign followed by a number. As I explained earlier, this engine is our PROTOTYPE 2.4 liter Honda Midget engine. While purchasing components for this build, I discovered which parts I could deem suitable for use in a Midget racing application, and which parts I could not. Since this engine was never intended to be sold, I was in no hurry to separate the cost of the parts I discarded from the total cost of the parts I purchased. I have also not calculated a dollar amount for the time I spent designing and machining components that are not available for purchase. Therefore, at this time even I do not have an accurate figure on what this engine will cost to duplicate. And I am not the type of person who will give someone a low-ball figure and then keep coming back to a customer for another $500.00 for this and another $500.00 for that. If anyone wants to deal with someone like that, I know one of the people “trolling” this post will be more than happy to oblige you.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

I have been warned by many people to stay off of IOW and I should have heeded their advice. However, I also know many people out there are interested in the 2.4L Production Midget engine concept and what the Badger Midget Auto Racing Association is doing to revive its series. The intent of this thread was NOT to sell engines. The intent was to show those who have a vested interest in the BMARA, and Midget racing in general, what the engines of the new era look like. I also want to say that I do appreciate the interest level that the new 2.4L Midget engine concept has raised and please be sure to catch a BMARA event in 2016 to see the engines in action.

More information on the concept can be found at 2-4midgetracing.com. If you are interested in the BMARA check out www.bmara.com or come to the BMARA Intro to Production Midget Engine Meeting taking place in Wisconsin on March 5th. Thank you!

Originally Posted by MRAY3:
So in today’s message board world, if someone asks how much you make, or how much you paid for your house, or how much your ex got in the divorce, you are obligated to answer? For many people these questions wouldn’t necessarily be tough to answer or even top secret, but they might be considered “none of your business.”

Big difference between asking someone how much they make, how much your house is worth, or what your ex got in a divorce compared to asking how much the guy roughly has in the prototype motor. Some are curious as to whether its a cost effective package in comparison to an ecotec or a focus package.... Its not a trolling question nor any ill-intent in asking it so go ahead and unbunch your panties.

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Well xoxide, it has become quite obvious to me that your reading comprehension skills and your courage are both lacking, since you hide behind a screen name while trolling on this message board. Let's test your logic skills. A person of average intelligence might be able to deduce that the cost of a fabricated aluminum oil pan for a Honda would be very similar to the cost of a fabricated aluminum oil pan for an Ecotec or a Focus. Likewise for a fuel injection system, a dry sump oil pump, a set of rods, etc. The final cost of building any of these engine packages depends a lot more on the quality of the aftermarket parts one chooses to use rather than the brand name of the salvage yard cylinder block and cylinder head the builder starts with. You can also add cost by using new components rather than salvage yard components. What more do you want from a message board post of a picture of an engine? Do you or anyone else on here know how much Earl Gaerte had in his prototype Gaerte Midget engine? Do you suppose the next 10 engines cost less than his first? I tried to answer your "simple question" but apparently nothing but a dollar sign followed by a number will satisfy you. Since I don't really care whether you are satisfied or not, you will just have to wait along with everyone else for an accurate dollar amount. In the mean time, there is a convicted ****** predator building and selling Ecotecs for use in the D2 series who might appreciate more business. Give him a call. Something tells me you have his number.

UPDATE: xoxide edited his post, removing most of his post attacking me for being "hostile" while "avoiding" answering questions about the cost of building this engine. I stand by my response.

I removed 1 sentence, tobtry not to incite further argument, but keep it up and try stretching the truth "most of his post".... Really grasping for straws aren't you.

It's become quite obvious to me that you're more interested in acting like a 5 year old that reverts back to petty insults rather than answering legitimate questions. Maybe you/your alter ego shouldn't have posted on here if you couldn't handle the questions from "people hiding behind a computer screen"

ps. If you get this worked up over someone asking how much you have into a project/prototype/whatever you want to call it, maybe the internet just isn't for you


I rest my case, there's no need to continue this conversation.

-Brandon Denton
904-861-7163

Re: BMARA Legal Honda Midget Engine
 

Originally Posted by xoxide:
I removed 1 sentence, tobtry not to incite further argument, but keep it up and try stretching the truth "most of his post".... Really grasping for straws aren't you.

It's become quite obvious to me that you're more interested in acting like a 5 year old that reverts back to petty insults rather than answering legitimate questions. Maybe you/your alter ego shouldn't have posted on here if you couldn't handle the questions from "people hiding behind a computer screen"

ps. If you get this worked up over someone asking how much you have into a project/prototype/whatever you want to call it, maybe the internet just isn't for you


I rest my case, there's no need to continue this conversation.

-Brandon Denton

x,
Go back and read these posts from the beginning and tell me who threw the first barb at whom. Look and see how many times I answered the question. I did not attach a dollar amount, but I did attach my explanation. You just didn't want to accept that and kept attacking me. After I responded, you removed part of your post. Maybe you shouldn't be posting on here if you can't handle getting a little taste of your own medicine. The one statement that you made that I will agree with is "There's no need to continue this conversation." Have a nice day...

Mark Ray